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22 Jul 2010, 3:19 am

Has that happened? Where you pray for help out of desperation, and something awful happens to you but you receive what you thought you wanted? It's almost cartoonish, but that happened more than once to me. You?



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22 Jul 2010, 5:54 am

prayers for myself have all been for naught, 'cept for one. i simply failed to notice the sign in the anteroom to life which read, "abandon all hope ye who enter here."



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22 Jul 2010, 5:57 am

Before I was a Christian I once did a spell to get the money to pay the bill. I got the exact sum of money three days later, and was delighted, until a filling fell out. Guess how much it cost to have replaced? Yup... money came with one hand, disappeared with the other.

Not a prayer, but similar thing.



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22 Jul 2010, 6:17 am

Careful what you wish for.


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22 Jul 2010, 7:25 am

Moog wrote:
Careful what you wish for.


You might get it.


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22 Jul 2010, 7:44 am

I believe the entire matter of prayer is usually most confused by "Santa-Clause Theology" where people believe they might have earned some kind of entitlement to be fulfilled upon request or even demand. But wherever we get the core ideas later driving conclusions drawn when a prayer is either answered or not, many people seem to pray as if something magical should then happen ... but then a magical response sometimes leads to wishing one had never prayed in the first place.

Confusion and ignorance do not make prayer a sham.


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22 Jul 2010, 10:06 am

leejosepho wrote:
I believe the entire matter of prayer is usually most confused by "Santa-Clause Theology" where people believe they might have earned some kind of entitlement to be fulfilled upon request or even demand. But wherever we get the core ideas later driving conclusions drawn when a prayer is either answered or not, many people seem to pray as if something magical should then happen ... but then a magical response sometimes leads to wishing one had never prayed in the first place.

Confusion and ignorance do not make prayer a sham.


Wow... you never addressed me directly, but it sounds like you're implying I have some sense of entitlement, and that I'm ignorant. I reached out in desperation, hoping for the best possible outcome. I was helped but at the dire expense of something else. I wouldn't take it back; in fact I thanked God because it made life easier. With all due respect, thanks for your response, still I don't appreciate what you just implied.



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22 Jul 2010, 11:43 am

CaptainTrips222 wrote:
Wow... you never addressed me directly, but ...


The question was about "prayers answered in horrible ways", and I only spoke in relation to that.

Have I possibly misunderstood something?


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22 Jul 2010, 12:54 pm

mgran wrote:
Before I was a Christian I once did a spell to get the money to pay the bill. I got the exact sum of money three days later, and was delighted, until a filling fell out. Guess how much it cost to have replaced? Yup... money came with one hand, disappeared with the other.

Not a prayer, but similar thing.


Hmmm, can you be more specific about the 'spell'? Not witchcraft, I hope.



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22 Jul 2010, 2:03 pm

I was a witch before I was a Christian, so yes, it was witchcraft. And it did work... just I kind of wished it hadn't! That tended to be how witchcraft panned out for me. I got what I wanted, and it turned to trash.



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22 Jul 2010, 2:13 pm

I've prayed on New Year's Day, that the original members of one of my favourite groups would get together and make a CD. Low and behold, one of those members passed away, recently.:.(


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22 Jul 2010, 2:16 pm

mgran wrote:
I was a witch before I was a Christian, so yes, it was witchcraft. And it did work... just I kind of wished it hadn't! That tended to be how witchcraft panned out for me. I got what I wanted, and it turned to trash.


Wow, although I would be really intrigued by the things a witch (sorry, it just seems wrong calling someone that) would get up to, I know that witchcraft is a something really dangerous and should be stayed away from. Good to know you have changed. :)



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22 Jul 2010, 2:29 pm

Prayers usually end up okay for me, but I definitely do not make wishes anymore, because they'd always Monkey Paw on me :x


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22 Jul 2010, 5:06 pm

mgran wrote:
I was a witch before I was a Christian, so yes, it was witchcraft. And it did work... just I kind of wished it hadn't! That tended to be how witchcraft panned out for me. I got what I wanted, and it turned to trash.


If that money story you told was true, that's awesome. It's almost Shakespearean.

And to Lee Joseph... if you meant people in general, I'm sorry. It sounded like it was directed at me somehow.



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23 Jul 2010, 7:02 am

I wouldn't call it Shakespearian. I'd call it bloody annoying!

I have one other similar story, but I'm not telling it, it ended up too horribly. :(

Of course, there is always the possibility that they were simply horrible coincidences.



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23 Jul 2010, 7:04 am

i_wanna_blue wrote:
mgran wrote:
I was a witch before I was a Christian, so yes, it was witchcraft. And it did work... just I kind of wished it hadn't! That tended to be how witchcraft panned out for me. I got what I wanted, and it turned to trash.


Wow, although I would be really intrigued by the things a witch (sorry, it just seems wrong calling someone that) would get up to, I know that witchcraft is a something really dangerous and should be stayed away from. Good to know you have changed. :)
I'm not that interested in talking about what I used to do for that very reason... describing it too often turns into glamourising it, and I'm not interested in that. But God does sometimes just grab you to get your attention. I'm glad He got mine.