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I remember when I was in elementary school, I got annoyed at how many of my classmates did not follow school rules and people were mean to each other. It was probably the worst in middle school. By the end of high school I think it got better. I used to think that I was unable to make friends because "people were bad" but then I never really noticed when people started to be mature. In university, I would say that people are generally "good" as in you wouldn't see random bullying happening or people picking fights with each other. I used to hope that I would one day be able to make friends easily but it turns out to be not the case. I also had a false impression that I would be able to talk a lot in adult conversations but it seems just as hard.

Anyone else find that elementary kids are "bad" while all of a sudden, people seemed to "follow the rules" and be "good"? I never really noticed "at what grade" this happened. Maybe a slow transition of maturity?

Children are not bad. They're just still learning what is and isn't acceptable behavior, impulse control, and how to see things from other peoples' point of view.

The important thing to remember is that the brain isn't fully developed until about the age of 20... give or take a couple of years. Most people find rules hard to follow until their brain is fully developed.

It was incomprehensible to me that after junior high, people were still passing to the next grade.

Then why did I find the other kids bad in elementary school? Was it because I was able to keep my mouth shut? (I was a quiet kid, I think)

Possibly. I was a stickler for rules as a child, too. Just thinking about breaking them would cause a panic attack.

As I said, children are still learning impulse control and what society expects from them. Some push the limits in order to learn this, while others hide in a corner and observe. Neither approach is inherently bad. The former is just more annoying.

I was a good rule follower but it was kids who didn't follow the rules that would cause me to break them because I get confused.I didn't know the rules anymore so I always thought they changed or else the kid would have gotten punished. And it says in my report cards I have difficulty following the rules? Gee I wonder why?

I think aspie kids either get upset when rules aren't followed or get confused when they aren't followed. And when I get in trouble for breaking them, I would rebel and argue because it wasn't fair I was the only one being punished and not the other kids. Plus the fact they make more of a big deal out of my behavior and ignore the other kids. It always made me mad.

I'm still that way, if I think I am being treated different, I fight and rebel by doing it more just to piss everyone off so they treat me normal. I did that here in 2007 and that was how I got banned. Then I settled down after that.

I bet the staff and teachers punishing me for breaking the rules was to actually teach me to not copy other kids and do what they do but it did the opposite for me. I call that discrimination.

I was a rule follower. Granted, I would sometimes break the rules for moral reasons. For example, on of my friends was mute and kids would bully her because of it. I kicked the s**t out of them. When the teacher asked why, I told her I was doing the job she couldn't be bothered to do. I didn't get in trouble. That and some of the teacher's thought, "Oh, she's in special ed so she doesn't know better." The principal loved my brother and I because we'd both beat up the bullies and let us come and spend time with her whenever we wanted.

Then I "graduated" out of special ed and I wasn't able to get away with it anymore. So anytime I'd defend myself or my friends, I'd get suspended when the jerks who started it got off scott-free. High school was better because rumors had spread that if you picked on me and if I didn't beat you up, my brother would. That's when I got better at verbal emasculation. Teachers would threaten to let my brother and I give trouble students "what for" if they didn't behave. We were very good disciplinary tools just because we'd only use violence when people deserved it. Teachers wanted us to go into law enforcement of some kind but I mellowed out fairly quickly once people left me alone.

I also got in trouble for defending myself and I was on the IEP. It never stopped me from defending myself. It's like punishing you for hitting a mugger for trying to take your purse. Would you not ever hit another mugger again when they try and take something from you? I bet not.

That's what I say! I remember a kid at school who kids would try to beat him up just because he's Asian. It was obvious that's why they were doing it since they'd say stuff like, "Go back to China!" Even though he was Korean. Ignorant pricks. Then when he'd defend himself, HE was the one who got in trouble. Racial discrimination is a felony isn't it? Or does that only apply to the workplace? I wanted to report on the racism in our school since I was on the newspaper and I was denied the article because the kids said, "he wasn't harassed because he was Asian. It's because he's a freaking weirdo!" Um...it's STILL bullying you asshats!