A dream about great earth changes

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I had a dream that much of the worlds ice melted in certain places and somehow there was floods worldwide from increased weather. There were weather changes and society as we know it concluded, people survived and the earth was cleansed and I suppose refreshed. It was not the same though, everything started all over..

I have theories about this dream of mine. Does anyone here worry of global warming? I don't, simply because mankind is stupid and to greedy to even care about there consequences. Likely to do with money, but a new earth without all the filth would be nice, like going to a new planet, that is better then global warming happening with worst results.

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I believe that all troubles are caused by the internet not beeing yet "totally developed", or "not enough bandwidth", or something like that, for people to start to think and "unite", yet.

Global warming marketing at it's best!

Global warming worries me to a degree, but unless a wide range of people are going to rise up against it, there is not much a few can do alone.

I believe it has more to do with economics than anything else. Many countries signed on to the Kyoto Protocol, for example. The United States and China refused. This is simply because they want to be allowed to emit greenhouse gases as much as they want. And China provides an interesting example.

China, in many ways, is not intimidated by the US, especially in terms of bargains having to do with the US and Israel in terms of bombing Iran and so forth. In other ways, China tiptoes with the United States, not as a product of obedience, per se, but rather as a product of economic enforcement. China employs cheap labor, for example. It is also one of the countries that has been involved with countless human rights violations. Most of this is just fine with the United States, as is China's route in disobedience regarding the Kyoto Protocol. This is why the US started to become enthusiastic with allowing them into the World Trade Organization.

If one is to do anything to stop global warming from progressing, then the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, the World Trade Organization, the North American Free Trade Association, the Free Trade Association of the Americas ... all of these loansharks and protectionist organizations ... have to be demolished.

- Ray M -

I believe global warming does exist, but I don't belive it is being caused by humankind's activities. The earth emits more CO2 and other greenhouse gases on it's own than we have ever produced through our activities. One if the things about global warming is that it has only been recently that we have designed instruments and mathematics sensitive enough to measure globa average temperatures accuratley. I beliveve it is just one of those things that naturally occurs with the earth.

The problem comes in the fact that humankind has located many homes and cities in areas that are affected by storms. 500 years ago and more, major hurricanes have hit the Gulf Coast. They didn't affect anybody because there were very few people or structures there. Global warming is more of a problem to humans than it is to the health and longevity of the earth. Just like those curbies out there that try and make everyone's mind the same, the human population attempts to make sure weather and climate stays the same. Humankind however has had limitied success in both avenues, and usually ends up causing more problems than it fixes. I believe we need to just plan ahead for droughts in previously rainy areas, and rain in previously droughted areas, along with cooler areas getting warmer, and warmer areas getting cooler.

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't think this gives humankind a free pass to pollute and sink up the air with reckless abandon. Pollution is still a major issue when it comes to our health and well being, as I don't want to be breathing the chemicals that smoke factory down the street is dumping out. Rather it causes global warming or not may be debateable, the health problems it causes is not!

I guess global warming does concern me to an extent, primarily because of the effect it is having on animals that aren't even causing this problem rather than the way it going to affect us. We are destroying this planet, its plants and its animals. And all most people can think about is how much money is lining their pockets and the latest gadgets.

I quite like the theory of global warming as shown in the film 'The Day After Tomorrow', it is certainly a good, feasible theory. About the world freezing over. I reckon this would kill about 85% of the population at least. But such is life (or not).

sc, cleansed and refreshed would certainly be the right way of putting it, in fact thats pretty accurate. It would be cleansed of all the crap - and of a lot of us.

That movie was such crap. Highly unrealistic. Climate change does NOT occur that quickly or spectacularly. Climate change occurs gradually over many years. The Earth has had many glacial/cold periods during the last few million years, and these glacial periods were separated by thousands of years. Change gradually occuring over a very long time.

Perhaps our industrial activity has sped up change somewhat, but it still requires at least hundreds of years for a major change to occur. Plenty of time for humans to adapt to the change. The world is NOT going to end the day after tomorrow.


Oh rubbish. Absolute rubbish. It would take at least hundreds of years (if not a thousand or multiple thousands) before the world is fully frozen over. More than enough time to adapt to these changes.

Likewise for the sea level rising. You are not going to wake up the day after tomorrow and find cities flooded. It takes many, many years for such monumental global changes to occur. People will not remember the world climate being majorly different when they were a kid because they will have not been alive long enough to see major change. People of the future will have to read their history books in order to learn that the world climate was different hundreds of years ago.

That sounds like you are saying that you include yourself amongst the stupid and greedy people



None of the planets in our solar system are suitable for human habitation. None of them can be colonized. And the nearest stars (which may or may not have suitable planets) require thousands of years of travel time to reach. So there are no new planets.

Building space stations is a possibility. Very difficult ofcourse, but still possible, unlike colonizing the planets of our solar system which is quite impossible for multiple reasons. Theoretically, we could all live in space stations and mine planets other than Earth for resources, and then leave the Earth as a sanctuary uninhabitated by humans Ofcourse it will not happen because there will always be humans who want to take advantage of what Earth has to offer, regardless of how much environmental damage is done.

Should I be disgusted by some of the statements I've heard in this post? Most of the people that will be "cleansed" are those from poor third world countries... who, because of their limited recourses, have been causing the least amount of havoc to the Earth. Why should they suffer for our ignorance?

Actually, Third World countries are causing a lot of pollution because they cannot afford to do things in an environmentally friendly manner. It costs a lot more money to do things in an environmentally friendly manner, and First World countries can afford this but Third World countries cannot.

I am not defending First World countries, just saying that Third World countries are also responsible for environmental damage and polluting practises.

For example, you might want to look at the book "Air Pollution and Health in Rapidly Developing Countries" by Gordon McGranahan, Frank Murray.

I think that a great deal of people DO want to do something about global warming. However there are two major problems.

The first is Apathy. People have a hard time doing anything these days. (Can't say I don't have the same problem myself)

The second is resistance to change. Many powerful people are not interested in sustainability (economic/environmental). I think in some cases it's because it is believed that measures which are more environmentally friendly are by definition less economical. But I've seen far too many examples where that is not the case.


What needs to be done, is to find ways to use the existing systems to accomplish the desired results.

One interesting thing (that probably won't get too far sadly), someone set up something equivalent to a stock exchange. The more a company reduces it's pollution, the more value they have in the exchange. What's more, they can obtain extra value by purchasing it from other companies.


As far as global warming goes, worries me too. Alters the weather, changing eco systems and the like. It's not just floods and hurricanes. Air/Water currents could change, resulting in droughts and blizzards.

Global Warming and Climate change is a lot more complicated then Hollywood movies would have us believe (isn't that true of EVERYTHING Hollywood would have us believe though?)