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How do you see yourself?
Poll ended at 14 Nov 2010, 2:26 pm
In the first person (I would like you do tell bill I called) 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
In the second person (Could you tell bill that I called) 58%  58%  [ 7 ]
In the third person (Cound you tell bill that 'your name here' called) 25%  25%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 12

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15 Oct 2010, 2:26 pm

I've noticed some stuff about the way people see 'themselves',
So how do you see your 'self'.

Personally I'd describe myself as a grown up child, not an over grown child.



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15 Oct 2010, 6:15 pm

I think in the royal plural. What's that count as? :D


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15 Oct 2010, 6:15 pm

Universal person?


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15 Oct 2010, 6:18 pm

Moog wrote:
Universal person?


Is that in response to me? Either way, we like that!


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15 Oct 2010, 6:21 pm

Depends. If it's formal, I use first person (tell him I called, please).
If it's informal, I tell something like Comrade, tell him that We, Party, called him! In USSR you call the Party, so tell him to call us!


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15 Oct 2010, 6:31 pm

I speak in second person type context.


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15 Oct 2010, 7:10 pm

Valoyossa wrote:
If it's informal, I tell something like Comrade, tell him that We, Party, called him! In USSR you call the Party, so tell him to call us!


I would like to announce that I :heart: Valoyossa.



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15 Oct 2010, 7:36 pm

I would see myself as the first person, the storyline all in my head are all in 1st person, sometimes 3rd.
I think of this alot in my head.


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15 Oct 2010, 8:24 pm

I usually talk in 2nd person, but Brainfre3ze_93 would prefer 3rd! :lol:


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15 Oct 2010, 10:07 pm

what happened to 4th person?



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16 Oct 2010, 3:15 am

It depends... in 95% of my dreams, I'm in 3rd person watching...

My memories, I'm in 3rd person... I don't actually remember things as how I see them currently, but remember them as if I was a spectator... remember position I was in, but see a generic body sitting/standing in that spot...

Talking I speak in first person, although sometimes, playfully, start talking in third person (happens quite a bit online, but out loud in person as well). Your example in parenthesis would definitely be third person, unless the person clearly identified me. "Hello, is Allison there?" "Oh, hello Jaimie, no Allison isn't here." "Ok, can you please tell her I called?" whereas "Hello is Joe there?" "No, I'm sorry, would you like me to take a message?" "Could you please tell Joe that Jaimie called? Thank you."

but thinking wise... I think in 1st person -- in the sense that I think using the words "I" and "me" and think about my entity... however I do have a slight disassociation with myself, and I'm often shocked by how I look when I see myself in images and mirrors. My mental image of myself does not match up at all (although, its actually more of a lack of an image really... more like an empty vague entity... like when one visualizes a book character (or maybe its just me who makes vague humanoid body entities but no real specific facial characteristics and stuff), its not defined, but its still "me"... then I see myself in mirror and it jars me out of that state and conflicts with the vagueness I accept to be myself, thus confusing/surprising me.)

When I think of future scenarios... I think of myself in 3rd person as well... see that vague ghostly entity that I identify as me approaching another vague entity for an interview, see that entity giving my friend a much more sharper and well defined entity a cheesecake outside the theatres (this Sunday xD). Other people I know well, they're mental images are much more well defined, but still not quite what they actually look like, more of a hypothetical ghostlike version with their facial features softened and stuff, I suppose so that it still fits them in most circumstances.... all the expressions they'd show in a day, change in outfits, change in hairstyles... its vague enough to emcompass it all and not surprise me from differences. (Although when my friend shaved his beard O_O;; did not fit his "entity" xD! Shocked me beyond belief and took weeks, scratch that, months, to adapt... )

But for the here and now? 1st person :P



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16 Oct 2010, 4:15 am

I used to talk in the 3rd person, but people found it too weird.


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16 Oct 2010, 12:57 pm

Kaybee wrote:
I think in the royal plural. What's that count as? :D


I'd say third person,
So long as your not seriously thinking your royal.
Putting other people[everyone] before yourself, but in relation to yourself.

The Royal we.

Now, if you treat them like Royals and not individuals, that's more second person.

Do you treat them as you would like to be treated, or as they would like to be treated.



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16 Oct 2010, 12:59 pm

Moog wrote:
I used to talk in the 3rd person, but people found it too weird.


So, your third person. 1st and 2dn person people. can't think that way, or even imagine it!

(that's why they think your too weird, they can't think you)



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16 Oct 2010, 1:04 pm

Tsiiki wrote:
My memories, I'm in 3rd person... I don't actually remember things as how I see them currently, but remember them as if I was a spectator... remember position I was in, but see a generic body sitting/standing in that spot...


Thats life for me!

My dreams, well I'd say their forth person, [sometimes]
Me watching me watching them watching me.

So sometimes aspects of my person are projected in my dreams and I can manipulate, exam and adjust those aspect.

Dreaming is often like synaesthetic introspective cognitive therapy.

I go to sleep one person, and wake up another!



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16 Oct 2010, 1:09 pm

Tsiiki wrote:
It depends... in 95% of my dreams, I'm in 3rd person watching...

My memories, I'm in 3rd person... I don't actually remember things as how I see them currently, but remember them as if I was a spectator... remember position I was in, but see a generic body sitting/standing in that spot...

Talking I speak in first person, although sometimes, playfully, start talking in third person (happens quite a bit online, but out loud in person as well). Your example in parenthesis would definitely be third person, unless the person clearly identified me. "Hello, is Allison there?" "Oh, hello Jaimie, no Allison isn't here." "Ok, can you please tell her I called?" whereas "Hello is Joe there?" "No, I'm sorry, would you like me to take a message?" "Could you please tell Joe that Jaimie called? Thank you."

but thinking wise... I think in 1st person -- in the sense that I think using the words "I" and "me" and think about my entity... however I do have a slight disassociation with myself, and I'm often shocked by how I look when I see myself in images and mirrors. My mental image of myself does not match up at all (although, its actually more of a lack of an image really... more like an empty vague entity... like when one visualizes a book character (or maybe its just me who makes vague humanoid body entities but no real specific facial characteristics and stuff), its not defined, but its still "me"... then I see myself in mirror and it jars me out of that state and conflicts with the vagueness I accept to be myself, thus confusing/surprising me.)

When I think of future scenarios... I think of myself in 3rd person as well... see that vague ghostly entity that I identify as me approaching another vague entity for an interview, see that entity giving my friend a much more sharper and well defined entity a cheesecake outside the theatres (this Sunday xD). Other people I know well, they're mental images are much more well defined, but still not quite what they actually look like, more of a hypothetical ghostlike version with their facial features softened and stuff, I suppose so that it still fits them in most circumstances.... all the expressions they'd show in a day, change in outfits, change in hairstyles... its vague enough to emcompass it all and not surprise me from differences. (Although when my friend shaved his beard O_O;; did not fit his "entity" xD! Shocked me beyond belief and took weeks, scratch that, months, to adapt... )

But for the here and now? 1st person :P



it's the I placement

I would like you to please tell her I have called
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Ok, can you please tell her I called. (second person, you first then I)

Now obviously people are 'taught' to be polite.

Which is why I used the example of giving someone a direct instruction.

Joe, I would like it if you could do me a favour and tell bill that I. (i first)
Joe, could you do me a favour and tell bill that I. (you then I)
Joe, could you do me a favour and tell bill that 'yourname'. (you then what you call me)