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Why do women have to remove the hair on their legs? I wear trousers and t-shirts so I don't really remove my hair unless I have to go swimming (I hate swimming) or go to a hot country (I hate hot countries). I don't see why men should be socially accepted to have hairy legs and armpits, when women are socially supposed to be hairless. It drives me mad. Stupid societal norms.

Because, it's gross.

How old are you Ferdinand?
I mean: how old are you really?

(I ask gently, just to know, as a matter of curiosity.)

the world was not meant to know.
it's one of those eternal mysteries

64.

Not really. I PMed you my answer.

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They have to wear skirts and stuff too.

That's another gender specific thing that I've never been able to understand. I guess that I will never understand gender specific rules.

So what about men? They wear shorts the same length as skirts yet they don't have to shave their legs.
BTW, I don't wear skirts, I'm a tomboy as they so call it.

I believe it's a difference between masculinity and femininity. Girls are biologically made to attract, whereas males are to be attracted.

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I understand that this development came from the early years of the Hollywood film industry. Yes there was a perception that femininity was indicated with no/less body hair, but for men chest hair was also shaved.

It all starts once the parents find out the sex of the unborn baby.

Once they put that specific colored blanket on us (blue for boys, pink for girls), then the traditional gender association begins (boys eventually playing with trucks, girls playing with dolls).

It also works as a double-edged sword as we get older in life since girls can dress up (skirts, etc.) or dress casually (pants, shorts, etc.) while the boys can only wear pants or shorts.

Why can't it just be simple... no one knows.

I have never understood this. It makes no sense to me. I suppose society imposes such odd rules on people. I remove the hair on my legs, armpits, and face only because the other kids at school and my parents made my life hell because I didn't do it, so I had to start, and I HATE it. Oddly enough, though, I'm not allowed to remove the hair on my arms. My mother won't let me, yet she is the one who bothers me about waxing and shaving most.

But I've actaully developed a great fear of having a single strand of hair showing anywhere. I shave my legs EVERYDAY, because I'm so terrified I might forget. I suppose that comes from the hard time people gave me about it. I also compulsively check my eyebrows to make sure I don't need a wax or anything.

The association of the blue/pink colors is also something subject to change over time. In the past - I think about 200 years ago - the colors were the other way about so pink was the masculine color. IN Europe, boys would also be dressed in essentially girls clothing. Folk-law held that the ferries would steal away boy babies, so dressing boys as girls ensured their safety.

Boys thus were deemed more 'valuable' than girls!

Sorry if this is a bit off topic. I hope it's of passing interest. I cannot account for the reasons why we do what we do or how society at large works.

Too true. I've seen pictures of Nicholas II in dresses when he was like a year old or something. Or maybe it's not a dress, but it sure does look like it. When he was standing up, not just when his mother was holding him in a blanket or something. Alexei Nikoleavich, too. I've also seen pictures of Alexei, not with long hair, exactly, but certainly in a pretty girlish kind of way.

This kind of reminds me of that one boy I read a biography about. The Boy Who Was Raised as a Girl or something.

I suppose I can only do just what Robot Giskard Reventlov did, stop thinking and trying to find logical explanations about why humans do the things they do, and simply marvel at it. While Giskard may marvel at how extraordinary and fascinating human beings are, though, I can only marvel at how they are anything but intelligent.

I dont any hair on guys, Gross I think you should just be able to do what you want.

And so what would if you dressed a boy in girl clothes, decorated his room pink, gave him dolls to play with. What would happen? Would he be gay?

I like hair on guys. I also like thick, expressive eyebrows(like my father, brother, Aladdin). I also like guys with head hair(again, like my father and Aladdin, my brother doesn't wear his like that anymore, as they must wear a certain hairstyle in the Marine Corps, so he doesn't have a choice). I HATE when they wear those really short hair styles.

In the book I read, it seemed that knew he was a boy. He never felt like a girl. They tried to get him interested in dolls, dress him in dresses, but he was like very confused, depressed, attempted to commit suicide, it just didn't work. When they told him the truth, he was very relieved. This is him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

Thank you for your replies.

I try to wear trousers as far as possible so that I don't have to shave/wax. As for my armpits...they haven't been touched by a razorblade for over a month now. Don't care because I never wear sleeveless tops.

I am of a Greek Cypriot descent which means that my hair is thick and black though.