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they're good 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
they're ok 15%  15%  [ 4 ]
they suck 81%  81%  [ 21 ]
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Dragonfly92
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24 Feb 2011, 11:41 am

now that they're in power, what do you think of them?

Also, "they're great" was supposed to be a poll option and so was "they really suck" and i don't know how to change the poll settings. sorry :oops:

My oppinion is that they suck because of the cuts they impose on things like the NHS, police and more.



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24 Feb 2011, 11:42 am

good for the rich, bad for everyone else.
oh and david cameron looks like a moomin.



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24 Feb 2011, 11:44 am

I don't know how to change the poll settings!! :(



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24 Feb 2011, 11:46 am

Excuse my language but they are s**t!

What they are trying to do is make the poor poorer while the rich are getting richer.
They don't know what they are even talking about half of the times.

If they know how us Londoners and the rest of the UK feel, they would have done something better rather than saying "we know how you feel" sort of thing.

All the things David Cameron is saying is exactly the same thing Tony Blair would be saying, it's all frauds imo.

If there was another labor party vote, I'm never picking them for the second time running and I've never even voted for them either.


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24 Feb 2011, 11:50 am

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What they are trying to do is make the poor poorer while the rich are getting richer.

Kind of like reverse robin hoods then.



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24 Feb 2011, 12:03 pm

Dragonfly92 wrote:
superboyian wrote:
What they are trying to do is make the poor poorer while the rich are getting richer.

Kind of like reverse robin hoods then.


It's like that yes.

The poorer people, people who are unable to work due to health issues, looking after a child etc, they would rely on things like benefit to be able to support themselves and their children and that being taking away from them will obviously make them poorer.

For the rich however, they would most likely getting richer because of the fact that they probably end up getting more payment and some of their moneys however go to things like benefits for the other people. That taking away would save the rich more money.

If this does make any sense to you, then yea you get the picture.


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24 Feb 2011, 12:05 pm

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24 Feb 2011, 3:10 pm

All the corporate tax avoidance in the UK should be thoroughly dealt with before even considering cutting certain benefits.

There are so many people in poverty and the politicians hardly acknowledge the billions in tax dodging.


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24 Feb 2011, 3:21 pm

PatrickNeville wrote:
All the corporate tax avoidance in the UK should be thoroughly dealt with before even considering cutting certain benefits.

There are so many people in poverty and the politicians hardly acknowledge the billions in tax dodging.


But they have just hiked VAT and income tax up, so they're squeezing everyone, and the previous government had been closing loopholes in the tax system, too. Plus, they already pay out more in benefits than they get in income tax. If you think it's so easy to sort out, then how do you propose the government keep everyone happy while reducing the massive deficit?



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24 Feb 2011, 3:52 pm

If you aren't keen on Cameron's Conservatives and you want to call your soul and home your own...

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24 Feb 2011, 4:33 pm

emlion wrote:
good for the rich, bad for everyone else.
oh and david cameron looks like a moomin.


this, although the moomin resemblance never occured to me & Boris is cool ;)



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24 Feb 2011, 5:33 pm

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I don't know what that means.



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24 Feb 2011, 5:33 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
PatrickNeville wrote:
All the corporate tax avoidance in the UK should be thoroughly dealt with before even considering cutting certain benefits.

There are so many people in poverty and the politicians hardly acknowledge the billions in tax dodging.


But they have just hiked VAT and income tax up, so they're squeezing everyone, and the previous government had been closing loopholes in the tax system, too. Plus, they already pay out more in benefits than they get in income tax. If you think it's so easy to sort out, then how do you propose the government keep everyone happy while reducing the massive deficit?


Well the total in billions in tax avoidance outweighs the cuts they are making which hits the poor. I am also supportive or a "Robin Hood Tax". A slight increase in taxes of the highest earners which would go a long way in helping the must vulnerable.

When did I ever say it was easy to sort out :roll: lol. If it only it were.


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24 Feb 2011, 6:27 pm

Yeah, evil...pure evil.

They're targeting vulnerable people such as the unemployed, poorer families and the disabled, the disabled especially it seems which is shameful, not only in the short-term with benefit cuts and axing services, but long-term by taking away our future and our kids futures too. Classic example of the upper classes keeping down the lower classes. I don't understand why we're just sitting back and taking it :evil:

What they call 'Big Society' is their term for placing responsibility onto local communities, charities and services to care for their own, the very groups that they're taking money from. It's some messed-up idealised idea of how we common people are; poverty stricken commoners all banding together in the face of adversity, making this country what it was in the good old days by magically jumping-up out of our wheelchairs (damn disabled people), rolling-up our sleeves (damn lazy unemployed 'people') and taking up jobs as chimney sweeps...fish wives...or whatever other jobs they think we commoners should be working...because god knows none of us will be able to afford to go into any other career.

It's obviously not their responsibility to care for people of this country, they're too busy blaming Labour for the mess we're in then doing anything about this mess themselves - seriously, we know you blame Labour, and we can discuss forever how true/untrue that may be, but the fact is that YOU'RE in charge now, so pull your finger out you lazy SOB's.

They don't seem to get that it would be better for the country and our economy to get people working, not for them to do all they can to prevent us from working. They are also not thinking of the future - if we're having a hard time finding work now, what happens in ten or twenty years time, what happens when we're all at an age when we need pensions, what happens when we no longer have skilled workers as the jobs market is so screwed-up or when we have no professionals because no one could afford to go to college let alone university.

The economy is a mess and has come almost to a halt, their way of fixing this is to A. take money away from people, B. take money away from business, C. take money away from services, D. destroying jobs...and I'm sure there's a E - Z there too - basically they don't seem to understand the economy. They fail to notice areas where money is wasted or going spare, and taking it from areas where it's needed.


BUT I know nothing about politics, I just know I'm P***ed off!


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25 Feb 2011, 1:42 am

Dragonfly92 wrote:
I don't know what that means.


Basically means if you're dissatisfied with the Cleggeron and his band of merry men… vote UKIP.



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25 Feb 2011, 6:11 am

PatrickNeville wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
PatrickNeville wrote:
All the corporate tax avoidance in the UK should be thoroughly dealt with before even considering cutting certain benefits.

There are so many people in poverty and the politicians hardly acknowledge the billions in tax dodging.


But they have just hiked VAT and income tax up, so they're squeezing everyone, and the previous government had been closing loopholes in the tax system, too. Plus, they already pay out more in benefits than they get in income tax. If you think it's so easy to sort out, then how do you propose the government keep everyone happy while reducing the massive deficit?


Well the total in billions in tax avoidance outweighs the cuts they are making which hits the poor. I am also supportive or a "Robin Hood Tax". A slight increase in taxes of the highest earners which would go a long way in helping the must vulnerable.

When did I ever say it was easy to sort out :roll: lol. If it only it were.


The Robin Hood Tax is stupid. The City is the world's largest financial centre, it's a massive contribution to our economy. So, consider what would happen if you kept squeezing all the financial institutions which occupy it. Eventually they'd start to move their businesses to different countries and focus their recruitment and resources on those countries. And guess what? That'd be a disaster for our economy, and then you can forget about your helping the poor stuff altogether.