this whole -alcohol causes anger- thing seems to be fishy...

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...to me somehow.

I can go on drink 10 glasses of stella and all it does to me is make me feel tired, lazy and sick to the point I crash and fall asleep, but the last thing it does to me is making me want to break the place apart and punch every random person in the face or stab him in the liver for example. In fact, it makes me happy and makes me wanting to celebrate things with people and brock out to good heavy music and basically have fun. Does it make me want to buy a gun and kill people? no!

So it got me to wonder, why is the media so stigmatized on alcohol being the "aggressor" of society. If alcohol is really the cause of aggression, murder and destruction in society, why don't they just ditch it all and close all the pubs selling it?

So yeah, I don't get it.

Different people react different on substances like alcohol and drugs.

Alcohol has also a tiring effect on me. But a friend of me gets totally hyper on it. So not everybody reacts the same, it depends on chemistry.

Another substance like caffeine. For me it makes me feel better, but it does not inhibit sleep. For other people they cannot drink it past three in the afternoon without losing sleep.

Everybody reacts differently. The problem is the agressive people, they hurt others and get into troubles, with media jumping on it. That is not acceptable behaviour and I think these people should be banned from drinking alcohol, but it would be difficult to be so specific.

Think it's more that it lowers the inhibitions of people who may already be angry to begin with.

This is what I had in mind to be honest.

People's behaviour after consuming alcohol is strongly influenced by cultural expectations. In different parts of the world people tend to react differently to alcohol intake. In some countries, people become quietly happy, in others, violence and loss of inhibition can be the norm. I can't find the website that had details of a study that was done in the last couple of years, but it found alcohol fuelled violence was more likely in a society where it is accepted that violence happens after drinking - if people have it in their mind that drink makes you violent, they are more likely to be so.

Some people do stupid things when they are drunk. I have never heard of someone killing people while drunk. I have heard of them doing rape, peeing in unusual spots, being violent so they resort to abuse and then drinking and driving. But I think if someone is aware of what being drunk can do to them, they shouldn't get drunk at all. Especially if they have children. When I first moved to Montana, my English teacher told her whole class a story about one of her students getting beaten up by her mother one morning because she was drunk. She came to school with a bloody nose and stood in front of the class and said something inappropriate. I also remember hearing from my mother that when my cousins' dad was little, his mom was always away due to her working and his dad always drank and he always beat him up when he get home from school. My brother always loved getting drunk and then one time he drove home drunk on his scooter and he crashed it on the side of the road and after that he cut way back on drinking. He was very lucky he didn't kill anyone nor hit anyone else. It was just him and the accident but he still got in trouble for it for driving under the influence. But he saw what being drunk could do to him so he cut way back. Anyone that says that was nothing makes me want to punch them and scream "Are you f*****g kidding me?" Yeah he could have been killed, he could have killed someone or crashed into a building or something. How can that be nothing? If he weren't wearing a helmet, he would have died. At least he was smart enough to wear one even though where he lives has no laws about wearing them.

It's always the bad stories we hear. How many times have we heard good stories about being drunk? I have always heard bad ones online and in real life. I have one friend online who loves to get drunk and it doesn't cause him to do anything stupid. I used to call him Homer as a joke because he loves his beer just like Homer loves his Duff. So maybe that's been the only time I have ever heard a good one.

I have found it seems like people with stable personalities do well when drunk but maybe people with personality issues don't?
A lot of people don't seem to realize that when they drink a lot over a long period of time the alcohol affects their brains/bodies even when they aren't drunk anymore. It can make people confused or really sick, or it can even kill you. The liver can regenerate from a lot of damage, but only so much. Hepatitis is a nasty virus, but a form can be caused by overconsumption of alcohol, or alcohol mixed with medication (even over the counter medication) as well. Some people just don't think about the potential consequences to themselves and to the people around them, and sometimes if and when they do it's too late and they've done too much trust damage to their relationships. Not everything can be fixed once broken.

I know plenty of people I can drink with and they can drink a lot and never have problems, but some do. Those people seem to drink because they aren't comfortable with who they are sober, and I'm usually not comfortable with who they are drunk, lol. I don't like these drunks with unstable personalities, and whether it's genetic or learned it does seem to run in their family, or sometimes culture. Some of them know they have issues with it and choose to do it anyway, in which case they are going to eventually get bad consequences as a direct result of their actions and it's just a matter of time.

I'm a drowsy philosopher with no conversational filter when drunk.

This.
Also: there are different types of alcoholic beverages and you can react differently to them. Being drunk on tequila can give you a different drunkenness than wine.

I get relaxed and a bit sedated really from wine. I have never taken enough cider or champagne to get any effect from it, and I don't touch other alcoholic beverages so I don't know how I'd react to them.

I just drank the better part of a bottle of chocolate red wine from Holland a family member gave to me, tasted like chocolate cough syrup, gave me an instant headache. Didn't get drunk, not even tipsy. Didn't help me "mingle" or "blend in" any better. Disappointed.

The stuff was 14%..

Stupid red wine. I knew better too. Red wine always gives me headaches, they gaslighted me into drinking it: "It'll be fine, it tastes good, it's European!!" I'm going to go eat a couple of Advil's now.

Red wine, vodka/rum/etc cooler's and beer = INSTANT HEADACHE for me.

My entire postcode has nobody but alcoholics, assorted addicts and ex offenders.. And one nut case. Three guesses for who starts the majority of fights. Lol I wouldn't say alcohol is the sole reason at all but it certainly doesn't help in this environment. Good practice for non-verbal communicator tho. That is exuding a "don't start with me vibe" when I have to deal with them.

Red wine can sometimes give me head aches too (and not from a lot consumption either).

It's not from Holland. I had never heard of the stuff before I saw your post and had to look it up. I've never seen the stuff in a supermarket. Other than the chocolate (Dutch) and the wine (French) it's 100% American. I saw it was promoted some time ago in the Netherlands, but apperantly, it didn't catch on.

You are entirely right, I checked out the bottle last night. Still, the stuff was gross.

Thats an urban myth that different alcholic bevarages give you a different kind of drunk. If you intake the same amount of alchohol into your bloodstream- you get the same kind of drunk regardless.

The difference is that different beverages have differing contents of alchohol, and you drink them differently and in differing contexes.

Wine is low content, and you're expected to drink it slowly, and expected to drink with food and often with family. So you get very little alchol into your bloodstream.

But if you're doing shots of whiskey with the boys while shooting darts-thats a high concentration of alchohol being delivered into you in a short time span -with no food in your stomach to break the effect. So the kind of drunk you're going to get is going to be quite different for those reasons.

My wife has an interesting theory on people's behavior when they're drunk. She says that a person's true personality comes out when they're drinking. Her ex-husband became either violent and mean, or just pitiful (sitting in a corner pouting, etc.). Myself, and friends that I have drank with all got friendly, and at some points quite silly when we've been drinking.