Why hasn't spelling reform gotten more attention?

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19 Mar 2013, 7:46 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_la ... ing_reform

I'm mean it's obviously a problem that many people on the autism spectrum have difficulties with, and it is without a doubt one of those arbitrary constraints that the mainstream pushes on us.

The only two arguments against are as follow.

1) it solves 90 percent of the problem but not the other 10 percent.

2) People won't know the origins of words anymore. :roll:



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19 Mar 2013, 7:56 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V7SmSlJCYo

here's a video that explains it.

It's amazing to realize how clueless english speakers are about vowels.

And just so you know AEIOU are not vowels.



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19 Mar 2013, 8:14 am

moved from General Autism Discussion to Random Discussion (though perhaps it is better suited to Art, Writing, and Music?)


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19 Mar 2013, 9:32 am

Why hasn't spelling reform received more attention?

One reason may be that spelling is only one of the three aspects of effective writing - the other two being grammar and punctuation.



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19 Mar 2013, 12:21 pm

English pronunciation should also be reformed. It's not very good.



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19 Mar 2013, 12:38 pm

People who don't know the language well can't make educated decisions about how to reform it.

People who do know the language well will generally find the reforms confusing and off-putting.



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20 Mar 2013, 12:01 pm

Stoek wrote:
I mean it's obviously a problem that many people on the autism spectrum have difficulties with, and it is without a doubt one of those arbitrary constraints that the mainstream pushes on us.


I sense a conspiracy theory here.



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20 Mar 2013, 12:20 pm

Actually; changing it might mess up the systems current Aspies have.

I think it's fine the way it is right now.


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20 Mar 2013, 12:46 pm

Probably because most people, including myself, don't see it as a major issue. I actually think it would cause more problems than it would solve, imagine if the spelling for car suddenly changed to kaar...it would be madness!!



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20 Mar 2013, 1:44 pm

I see the average person being barely-literate and fine with it. It's disturbing, but I don't think it's much different from 100 years ago... I think most humans will only learn the basics in order to survive because anything beyond that seems to require significant effort but have little immediate reward.

Being hyper-social creatures, being part of the group and communicating the same way means far more to them. If they all use the same txt garble, they understand each other - and nothing else matters to them.

I imagine this is why so many people can't understand Shakespeare at all.



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20 Mar 2013, 8:46 pm

I like the idea of it but it won't happen. However lanauage is constantly evolving; slang terms come out as well as new words & words get spellt different ways in slang conversation. Spelin werds like day soudid waz kind of popular on some forumz I used 10yerz ago but it got replaced by slang text messag-n lingo. We could try & make the trend become popular again.


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21 Mar 2013, 5:28 pm

mds_02 wrote:
People who don't know the language well can't make educated decisions about how to reform it.

People who do know the language well will generally find the reforms confusing and off-putting.


This is correct.


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21 Mar 2013, 5:47 pm

In the Netherlands, we have a spelling reform EVERY TEN YEARS, for the purpose of 'making things easier'. Needless to say, most people find it confusing and annoying, and at any given time, a lot of people don't bother keeping up with the then-current 'official' spelling rules anyway, instead choosing to employ a spelling they think makes sense.
Last time we had a spelling reform (in 2005/2006), the official guide to Dutch spelling (called 'the Green Booklet') found competition in the form of the 'White Booklet', which was put together by a couple of novelists, journalists, and linguists, to give a more consistent alternative to the Green Booklet. It was outrageous!


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22 Mar 2013, 4:25 am

Stoek wrote:
I'm mean it's obviously a problem that many people on the autism spectrum have difficulties with, and it is without a doubt one of those arbitrary constraints that the mainstream pushes on us.


I would really like to know, where your message "it's obviously a problem that many people on the autism spectrum have difficulties with" comes from. Is there any study, any report, any scientific research behind this message. Or is it only "I have problems with it, and I think I have asperger, so I think its obvious that people on the autism spectrum have difficulties with it". You dont even write any reason WHY you think that people with an autism spectrum should have difficulties with it?

So I have autism. So I absolutely love order and structures. I love exact stuff without arguing. So I learn a word and there is only one possible solution to write it and to pronounce it, and this I memorize and its done. So why the hell should I be happy about being forced to change something exactly memorized, destroying the existing link, forcing a new link, and getting weird because of that. Why should I be happy about that, because of having autism?



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22 Mar 2013, 5:46 am

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Why hasn't spelling reform gotten more attention?

because nearly everyone knows how to spell it i guess.



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22 Mar 2013, 10:51 am

Schneekugel wrote:
Stoek wrote:
I'm mean it's obviously a problem that many people on the autism spectrum have difficulties with, and it is without a doubt one of those arbitrary constraints that the mainstream pushes on us.


I would really like to know, where your message "it's obviously a problem that many people on the autism spectrum have difficulties with" comes from. Is there any study, any report, any scientific research behind this message. Or is it only "I have problems with it, and I think I have asperger, so I think its obvious that people on the autism spectrum have difficulties with it". You dont even write any reason WHY you think that people with an autism spectrum should have difficulties with it?
Perhaps it's due to learning disabilities being fairly common with Aspergers like dyslexia which I have& it's common knoledge that learning disabilities can cause spelling problems. I'm just guessing here. Another one is that lots of post on this forum don't use perfect spelling & grammer & it that's the case; I would take into account that people in general don't use great spellings on forums so I wouldn't juge spelling problems bassed on how people post.


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