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09 Nov 2012, 2:59 pm

Are there any people who you ever suspected to have Asperger or something else of the kind. (proven or personal opinion).



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09 Nov 2012, 3:13 pm

No.


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09 Nov 2012, 3:14 pm

I think you're asking it the wrong way round. The question to ask would be: "can a person with Asperger's be famous?"

It depends what they're famous for. You need to specify to whom you are referring when you say "famous." Do you mean movie stars? If so, it's unlikely that any of them have AS, because being a movie star involves a lot of mixing with people and going to parties and being followed around and photographed. Aspie nightmare.



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09 Nov 2012, 3:21 pm

Yeah, I can't see that any famous person have AS. The closest must be some artists, but even they don't actually have it.



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09 Nov 2012, 3:25 pm

Plodder wrote:
I think you're asking it the wrong way round. The question to ask would be: "can a person with Asperger's be famous?"

The answer is "Maybe".

If they try for fame, then they may fail.

But if fame is thrust upon them for something they've accomplished, then they may succeed.


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09 Nov 2012, 3:32 pm

Aspies can be artists. I'm an artist (though I don't exactly make a living by it) and I am very much an aspie. Full-on meltdowns from riding public transportation, hiding in the bathroom at work to beat my head against the wall, rocking back and forth and beating my head and flapping hands all the time kind of aspie, not just "awkward and antisocial" kind of aspie. In fact I thank autism for much of my artistic skill.

I bet we could even be movie stars as long as we had a way to deal with the stress. I've learned to enjoy many types of social situations, as long as I prepare myself properly and have some valium on hand as a backup. In fact, I hear people saying a lot lately that you don't have to have sensory issues to be an aspie. I disagree with that but I'd say you don't necessarily have to hate social events to be an aspie, as long as you have a way of dealing with the sensory overload. I even go to parties in clubs on a regular basis (thanks to alcohol and a few other things that help me keep my anxiety levels down, along with always having a group of close friends with me to give me a comfortable barrier when I need it) and almost never get meltdowns as a result. Usually I have a lot of fun. I even dance (badly)!

Everyone on the spectrum is different. Just because something is difficult or easy for one of us doesn't mean that's true for everyone. I'm not saying that any famous movie stars are on the spectrum (and I really think it's silly to try to speculate about something like that), but it's possible that someone could be. No one believes I have it when I first tell them because I've trained myself to hide it so well, but that doesn't mean I don't have it. It just means I've been training for years and I'm lucky enough to be good at mimicking other people correctly, even when I don't understand why I'm expected to act a certain way or say a certain thing. The same could be true for anyone.



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09 Nov 2012, 3:33 pm

^ Agree with Fnord.

Why anyone would deliberately set out to be famous beats me.

People writing about your personal life in newspapers. People criticising everything you do. People following you around and taking your photograph without your permission. People digging up your past and publishing embarrassing facts about you. People believing lies and rumours about you. Fake people pretending to be your friends. People trying to kidnap you.

No thanks.

*shudder*

If fame comes as a side effect of some great achievement, I suppose you just have to put up with it.



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09 Nov 2012, 3:42 pm

I think you can be famous without being so famous that all that happens. Anyway, don't fall into the trap of thinking "I can't understand how anyone could feel that way, therefore it must be impossible." That's the reason we have such a hard time being understood by NTs: they assume that if it's beyond their own experience, it can't exist. An aspie might well set out to be famous. I wouldn't, but we can't say it would never happen, or even that someone wouldn't succeed if, for whatever reason, it was important enough to them.



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09 Nov 2012, 3:50 pm

There's a pretty well established actress with Aspergers, I can't remember her name though. She starred in a movie where her legs turned into a tail, on contact with water.



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09 Nov 2012, 3:57 pm

kotshka wrote:
I think you can be famous without being so famous that all that happens. Anyway, don't fall into the trap of thinking "I can't understand how anyone could feel that way, therefore it must be impossible." That's the reason we have such a hard time being understood by NTs: they assume that if it's beyond their own experience, it can't exist. An aspie might well set out to be famous. I wouldn't, but we can't say it would never happen, or even that someone wouldn't succeed if, for whatever reason, it was important enough to them.


No, I am not falling into any kind of trap. I know perfectly well that not everybody feels about fame the way I do. I know that people are different. I can see that lots of people actually want to be famous. There are scores of people queing up to be on reality shows and talent shows and pop idol shows and things like that. Most people want to be famous. I know that. It's just that I don't. Therefore, even though I know that they feel differently about fame,their desire for fame seems stupid and illogical to me, because I strongly dislike all the sorts of things they long for (parties, attention, noise, media exposure, etc). However, if I liked those things, it would make sense to want to be famous. Therefore, from their point of view, since they like those things and seek after them, their desire for fame makes sense. It just doesn't make sense from my point of view, because I do not like those things. See what I mean? ;)



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09 Nov 2012, 3:57 pm

JellyCat wrote:
There's a pretty well established actress with Aspergers, I can't remember her name though. She starred in a movie where her legs turned into a tail, on contact with water.



Daryl Hannah.


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09 Nov 2012, 4:07 pm

I'm actually a pretty good actress. Not me trying to be arrogant: I've been told it many times when working in theater or for little independent films. For sure this is a large part of why I manage to blend in so well and hide my issues from NTs. I enjoy acting and doing impersonations. Used to do little shows for my family when I was really young. When I'm on a stage or in front of a camera, especially, it's like a nice little wall between me and the world, and all the self-consciousness and embarrassment and awkwardness I feel in normal face-to-face conversations disappears.

Anyway, Plodder, I didn't mean to say that you were falling into the trap, just that in general, people saying that aspies "can't" be famous or wouldn't want to just because of their autism symptoms is not really something any of us can judge. I wouldn't want to be famous either, and I can't understand why anyone would want to, but that doesn't mean it's not possible.



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09 Nov 2012, 4:39 pm

steven spielberg

dan aykroyd

daryl hannah


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09 Nov 2012, 4:46 pm

Of course there are famous people who are on the spectrum.


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09 Nov 2012, 4:46 pm

You're new here, aren't you ??


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09 Nov 2012, 4:57 pm

I don't really see it, and I don't suspect it in anyone that I know. Looking at Dan Aykroyd and Daryl Hannah they are pretty Asperger-y. Maybe the reason that I don't see it is because people with Asperger's supposedly are so different from eachother. There is no-one that are famous that I can relate to, who have Asperger's. Hollywood and rumours are just distracting.