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It's all over but the crying. Obama won.

Four years ago I was as happy as could be, because I believe what he said he would do. Four years later I still can't get to a doctor or get my medicine, most people I know are worse off financially than before, and we have four more long years to get through before there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

Americans, get your "Will Work For Food" signs ready, because the economy was already going down the toilet, tonight was the flush.

Well, we'll get to see how bright Obama really is: was he playing 9-dimensional chess for his first term, or is he really a moderate republican? While I think he's better for the country than Romney, I don't think the next 4 years are going to be very different than the last 4.

America gets the presidents it deserves.

Ouch ...

In all reality - We've got weaker as a whole. Economically - You cannot spend your way out of debt and that's what happened. National debt continues to increase, people forget about 2008, what Obama ran on.. he broke almost every single campaign promise then except healthcare reform, which was written by lobbiests, that you'll probably end up paying more into then you'll ever receive... social security? That hasn't been fixed.. so, so many things that I can mention... I'm not saying Romney would have been any better, they're both s**t. I'm just tired of the corruption and dishonest politicians. I didn't vote.. but if I did it'd of been for Gary Johnson- All the candidates that won in my state, would have won regardless. If people "vote" for the lesser of two evils, and they end up winning and do a horrible job.. you're accountable.

My father in-law is going to be livid! He launched into the "Obama is a commie" speech last time I went over to visit him.

I have no horse in this race myself. It makes little difference to me in Canada whether the donkey or the elephant is current animal of yankee choice.

will the gop learn anything from this race? only how to play rougher and dirtier next time. will they make nice with latinos and the "47%"? no, they are going to double down on trickle down and trickle down on the latinos via "voluntary deportation."


lucky you.

What they will learn (I hope) is that the age of the wealthy white male slave-owner mentality is rapidly drawing to a close.

They can't keep pandering to wealthy white right-wing conservatives and expect the rest of the country to like them.

didn't einstein say something to the effect that "insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly yet expecting a different result"? by dint of this, i believe the gop are insane, in that they will not learn anything positive from this, they will just get meaner and even more exclusionary until a solidly rich white straight male core of narrow ideological purity remains of their party.

Doesn't surprise me. I thought he would lose because things still haven't happened he said he would do until Mitt Romney said about 46% of Americans being leeches and I knew there went his vote from people.


I had an online friend who was very republican. He told me he was going to flee this country if Obama won again. Shame we are not friends anymore because I wonder what is reaction is and if he will actually leave our country.

I see you don't get the point here. Even with the split basically the same. The President has the upper hand. The whole house has a middle term coming up. They can't afford another stalemate. The republican congress must now act on the jobs bill, they has been holding from the floor for a vote. They are now forced to start working on America's problem and not focusing on doing thing to keep the President from being reelected. He can't be and they want to be. They waste two years doing nothing. Kick the ball back about eighteen years. They tried the same thing with Bill Clinton. They threaten him with shutting down the government. He told them to go right ahead. He had nothing to lose. They caved in the end. Now this was a President that had build the economy and created surpluses and jobs and reform welfare. An as soon as they got the hell out of his way. He continued to do so until he left office. Fast forward eighteen years and they tried to say Clinton did all those great things because of a bi-partisan effort.

Interesting - someone on the news here this evening made pretty much the same observation: that Romney and Co. represent the angry, evangelical white men of America - but that's no longer America. The difference being, Obama knows this full well.

Another interesting comment was that if Lincoln hadn't won a second term, it's unlikely he'd be remembered for much today.
Not saying that Obama will be remembered by history as much as Lincoln, but this does reflect the same thing as with UK politics: whenever someone from the opposing party is elected they're invariably deemed a failure for not fixing stuff right now in their first term.
Even if they did make honest promises, events sometimes conspire to work against those promises and from what I know (not that much, 'tis true!), a whole heap of problems were caused for Obama by Republicans basically saying "no" to as much as they possibly could - and that foot-dragging just insults all Americans.

Yeah, I got the impression pretty frequently that the only reason the Republicans were blocking certain legislation was in an effort to make Obama look bad and keep him from getting elected. Now that he's locked in for another four years it'll be interesting to see if there's more bipartisanship in Congress than there has been recently.

There has to be - otherwise America will be dragged over the edge of a cliff because of this partisan idiocy.

Actually, I'm a democrat and pretty liberal myself. I voted for Obama last time and campaigned etc for him. I rarely vote for a conservative unless the pro's outweigh the con's to me. I had resisted even thinking about voting for Romney until about 6 months ago. The economy is really bad where we are right now. It was not this way four years ago. I suppose I made the final decision to go with Romney because of the economy when I was told by several different people over several weeks time that many of the jobs that my husbands company had bid and were waiting to start work on, were waiting themselves until after the election to give anyone the go ahead. A lot of small independently owned businesses are worred that our economy is going to keep getting worse and they will go broke, and they are also worried because small business like that won't be able to afford to pay the mandated health insurance. Rather than open up the business, struggle and either go under or barely get by for four years, many of them have stated that if Obama is reelected they are shutting down.

It's not just businesses that his company bid jobs for either. There are a whole lot of small businesses closing around here. By "around here" I don't mean in my town. I mean in Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, Shelby County, etc. The more places that close, the more people who will be out of work and it can snowball. I decided to vote for Romney to see if he can do something to turn this around because it's gotten worse under Obama and I'm up for somebody new trying. I despise Romney's stance on many issues, but to me the bigger issue is the economy. While the president can have some influence on a womans right to choose and on gay rights, he doesn't make the laws. Both of those causes are very important to me, but they are not as important to me as my family's survival and the survival of other families in our situation. It was a distasteful choice, and one I weighed for a while before making it.

Obamacare is, in my opinion, not much more than extortion being given a legal blessing because it's "good for us". I'm not one of those nuts who think that Obamacare is simply a thinly veiled plot to rid the country of those over 65 or with chronic health problems. That's riculous, although my mother believes it. It's the financial costs to people who don't have the money and won't have the money and can't even beg or borrow the money on the day that it becomes required by the government to pay it that make it not feasable to me. I don't know what we are going to do when that time comes, but we will have to figure something out I guess. There's no way we can get the money, so I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Anyway, I wanted to explain to you why I voted the way I did and why I am as upset as I am over this. It's not because "my" candidate lost or because I share Romneys values and now feel like our country is corrupt, sinful and vice ridden. It's because I want somebody else in the drivers seat because from my experience since he's been in office, he's driving that vehicle slowly but surely toward a cliff. I'm neither Thelma nor Louise and the only thing I can do now is hope he hits the brakes or gets a flat tire before we go sailing off together into the Grand Canyon.

I don't think the economy here wasn't as bad four years ago as it is now - but that's not Obama's fault either.
The previous party "running" the UK had plenty of time to screw it up - which it did, magnificently - and to buy into the relaxed banking regulation which is, AIUI, as near as makes no difference to what happened in the USA too. I'm not sure if the world situation aided this in happening or if this mess polluted the world - but either way, it's now everyone's problem.
I get the impression Obama is being dragged toward that cliff, and it will be interesting to see how quickly the Republicans realise they are going to have to work with him on this. Hint: they need to realise very quickly.

IIRC the USA is the only developed nation to not provide some form of universal health-care for its population and I have no idea how anyone in the USA can find that situation acceptable or even defensible. Really, that's about the top and tail of it.

To me, Cornflake, that's the one thing that bothers me about my home nation. (Although some people may have some counter-arguments with what I am saying here.)