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23 Dec 2022, 2:10 am

what's so unpopular about that? :scratch: unless you're talkin' to somebody like jack lalanne mebbe.



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23 Dec 2022, 2:11 am

Everything should have raspberry jam in the middle. ^^

Except maybe cabbage.


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23 Dec 2022, 2:15 am

Folks who eat fruit flavored candy, but never eat actual fruit should ...confined to mental hospitals.



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23 Dec 2022, 2:18 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Everything should have raspberry jam in the middle. ^^ Except maybe cabbage.

cabbage should be in a cabbage sandwich with corned beef and port wine cheese in the middle.
[edited, damn it :oops: :evil: ]



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23 Dec 2022, 2:23 am

Da_Zero_A_Dieci wrote:
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The letter "Q" is unnecessary and should be removed from the English alphabet.


Absolutely.

Similarly, the letter 'c' should be replaced by either 'k', or by 's', in the spellings of virtually all English language words in which the letter now appears.

But the letter itself can be saved, and repurposed, to stand for the sound 'ch' (as they already do in Italian). :)


The Italian language is a mess.
Very complicated to talk about.
If I ask you how the Ch should be used, you literally go crazy.

Ch'io, ch'he, ch'altri: the elision of which
Which can be elided in front of a word beginning with the vowels e, i; and in this case it always becomes ch': ch'he, ch'io: the h is necessary to preserve the hard, guttural pronunciation of the consonant c. But the same elision can also be made in front of words that begin with a, o, u: ch'altri, ch'ode, ch'urla. There are those who, to economize an h, write c'altri, c'ode, c'urla, using as an excuse that the guttural pronunciation of the c is given naturally by its encounter with the vowels a, o, u. Economics inadvisable because the elision only concerns the final vowel of the word, i.e. the e.

Another case: that in front of the verbal forms ho, hai, ha, they have. The elided forms will be: ch'ho, ch'hai, ch'ha, ch'hanno. Here too, for the reason mentioned above, the forms c'ho, c'hai, c'ha, c'hanno are not recommended. Those who prefer accented verb forms without the h (see initial h: a surviving letter), will write ch'ò, ch'ài, ch'à, ch'ànno. Absolutely do not use the forms c'ò, c'ài etc.


The same rules also apply to the elision of certain conjunctions such as also, why, until, although, for the indefinite adjective some etc.: too, too, even today, though I, because I, until had, some other. But except for also, all these eliminations smell old: reserved for those who love antiques.


And I thought that both English and French were messed up. Words in French are spelled in ways in a different universe from how theyre pronounced. English is of a spelling disaster.

Spanish spelling is quite simple and straightward once you remember that H is silent, and the J is H, and that that 'tilda' symbol over some Ns means to put a 'ya' sound into it. Manana, always manana.



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23 Dec 2022, 2:24 am

auntblabby wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
Everything should have raspberry jam in the middle. ^^ Except maybe cabbage.

cabbage should be in a cabbage sandwich with corned beef and porn wine cheese in the middle.


"Porn wine"? :lol:



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23 Dec 2022, 6:20 am

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^ You may be on to something, Blabs.  Until I can find a character set that includes an 'R' or 'r' with a tilde over it, your "Rr" technique might be suited for public speakers speaking unfamiliar words from a script.
Looks like others already did it? -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%CC%83


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23 Dec 2022, 6:23 am

Cornflake wrote:
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^ You may be on to something, Blabs.  Until I can find a character set that includes an 'R' or 'r' with a tilde over it, your "Rr" technique might be suited for public speakers speaking unfamiliar words from a script.
Looks like others already did it? -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%CC%83

i think he was wondering about where to get an english language character set that included this.



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23 Dec 2022, 6:33 am

Da_Zero_A_Dieci wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Da_Zero_A_Dieci wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
And I thought that both English and French were messed up. Words in French are spelled in ways in a different universe from how theyre pronounced. English is of a spelling disaster.

Spanish spelling is quite simple and straightward once you remember that H is silent, and the J is H, and that that 'tilda' symbol over some Ns means to put a 'ya' sound into it. Manana, always manana.

Italian is dying out.

A language lives if:
1) If you use it pure
2) A language lives if you use it technologically.

It doesn't happen to us.


I predict and not only me that within the next 25 years only English will be spoken here.

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The French use their language peremptorily, they use Ordinateur to indicate PC .

We use PCs.

And other ways but always with English terms.


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Interesting.

Yeah, Italy is not only fonder of the Americas (plural) than of the rest of Europe, Italy IS the Americas because so many Italians emmigrated to the Americas in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. They say that Argentinians are "Italians who speak Spanish, and think they are British".

In contrast the French hate us Americans even more than they hate Germany because were one of Britain's several babies! :lol:



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23 Dec 2022, 6:39 am

auntblabby wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
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^ You may be on to something, Blabs.  Until I can find a character set that includes an 'R' or 'r' with a tilde over it, your "Rr" technique might be suited for public speakers speaking unfamiliar words from a script.
Looks like others already did it? -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%CC%83

i think he was wondering about where to get an english language character set that included this.


Yeah. It's a 'tilde' symbol. The same symbol that the Spanish speaking world uses over the first n in the word manana (tomorrow) to indicate that you pronounce it "manYAna" (always manana). But my keyboard doesnt have that symbol.

So ...why not use Blabby's idea? For those dialects that you have roll the r's?

"If it's not from Scotland it's cRrap!"


https://youtu.be/DCkVJk4_ddk



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23 Dec 2022, 6:45 am

naturalplastic wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
Fnord wrote:
^ You may be on to something, Blabs.  Until I can find a character set that includes an 'R' or 'r' with a tilde over it, your "Rr" technique might be suited for public speakers speaking unfamiliar words from a script.
Looks like others already did it? -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%CC%83

i think he was wondering about where to get an english language character set that included this.


Yeah. It's a 'tilde' symbol. The same symbol that the Spanish speaking world uses over the first n in the word manana (tomorrow) to indicate that you pronounce it "manYAna" (always manana). But my keyboard doesnt have that symbol.

So ...why not use Blabby's idea? For those dialects that you have roll the r's?

"If it's not from Scotland it's cRrap!"

it makes me wonder what script writers do when they want an actor to roll his Rs.



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23 Dec 2022, 6:52 am

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But my keyboard doesnt have that symbol.
It's a Unicode character so along with all the other 149,185 Unicode characters defined in the current version (15.0), it won't be there.

R̃ denotes a rolled "R". (same for the lower case form)
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/r%CC%83

There are ways of entering Unicode characters directly, or at least with Windows - IIRC something like <alt key>#### where '####' represents a number typed on the numeric pad. (I don't use Windows so I can't say but a search should show how it's done).

Or R̃, along with the other Unicode characters, can easily be copy/pasted from many sites like this one:
https://www.amp-what.com/unicode/search/r


Ah yes, here ya go:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/off ... 2ee12e50e0
The number for Unicode R̃ is apparently 0303 (obtained from the previous page linked).

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_input


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23 Dec 2022, 6:57 am

@Blabby

They just hafta put instructions in the margins.



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23 Dec 2022, 7:29 am

Well, I'm not going to r̃epeat myself... :wink:


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23 Dec 2022, 8:34 am

naturalplastic wrote:
@Blabby They just hafta put instructions in the margins.

ah so. :) they need to do that on all public performances of the song "little drummer boy." IOW it's NOT "Brumpa bum bum!" :roll:



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27 Dec 2022, 3:41 am

:D :D