NT are amazing liars

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When I was younger I was completely clueless about how much others could lie. I was totally amazed how some people would almost never tell the truth about anything, even seemingly trivial things.

Now I have less trouble with this and just accept it as a fact of life.

My girlfriend, NT likes to rub it in to her sister a NT too.
This weekend we are going to Sunnyvale for a stock traders group and then we will tour around San Francisco and maybe Big Sur.

My girlfriend tells her sister we are going to Washington DC instead. I have seen this a lot, girls trying to appear much more wealthy/better connected etc than they actually are.

The recession has brought many of these exaggerators back down to earth. Just a few years back my girlfriends sister was really rubbing in to her. So now the table has turned.

Her sister is minimally employed her husband is unemployed trying to get into the church as a pastor thing. They have not been paying on there house for the last three years. I suggested she help get her sister an EBT card as I did not want to be feeding all those unemployed people over at her sisters house.
My girlfriends personality type is ESFP
Her sister is ESFJ as is her husband too.

Out of time have to go.

Yes Nt's can be superb liars-and one person in my case was a fellow aspie.It hurts when a fellow aspie lies to you and I am gullible.

I agree that many NTs are good liars.

I think I share the truth a lot more than I probably should. People seem to get offended more easily when you give it to them instead of some rose-colored version.

I agree that it is very hard to trust anyone. I learned this one recently when someone I had trusted fully and thought loved me turned out to be just putting up with me. I was blindsided by it and my views on life and other people have changed dramatically because of it.

On a second note, have fun in Sunnyvale, thats where I live. Bring a jacket, it's cold and going to rain.

A web page titled Dealing With Manipulative People
http://www.rickross.com/reference/brain ... ing11.html

Sometimes I rely on NT people to help me spot these kind of people as am not so good at seeing it until it is too late.

They say one thing, but they mean another. I was friends with an NT female like that. Let's just say that the friendship didn't last for very long.

Imagine how scared they must be of not fitting in that they have to lie so frequently.

I suppose... usually I'm just really gullible.

Thought I would add this link to this article, "Why women constantly lie about life on Facebook"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/f ... ebook.html

Speaking of my Filipina girlfriend and her sisters, they are always doing this kind of thing to each other, in Tagalog it is called "bola bola" in English that means baloney.

I hope this helps some younger among us who are feeling low, thinking there pears are doing so much better. For all you know you may be better off than all of them.

I used to have problems detecting liars because they used the very things that I found attractive to create an illusion. The appearance of excitement, power, care, and sympathy for the lowly were good props used just to set up a stage, because a liar is all about acting and playing a part. These experiences forced me to overwrite my trust default setting so I now automatically assume that everything I hear from certain NT's is a lie.

They do it so naturally and automatically that I can't often tell that they are lying just to impress etc. I'm very poor at that. When I'm asked a personal question, I automatically tell the truth or tell them I can't tell the truth instead of just lying. Later I regret for being so stupidly truthful with people who don't deserve it.

I was really naive when I was little so I believed people don't lie and only the obvious bad people lie
That's why lies hurt me so much, they still do
I've learnt that NTs are so full of BS it's ridiculous
The only person who doesn't lie to me is my best friend who is an aspie

I can sometimes see why people tell little white lies (because even I do), or if they tell a bigger lie for a reason, but I don't see why people have to lie just for the sake of lying, when there's no need for it at all.

Some people shame people that lie all the time. They call them ''bullshitters'', and most people don't like bullshitters. Being friends or in a relationship with a bullshitter usually doesn't work. People have got to trust each other to a certain extent.

I have a friend who thinks she is being kind by intentionally being really honest, but sometimes I feel I have to tread on eggshells around her because of this. She seems to believe that just because she doesn't like a certain type of clothes I'm wearing, it means nobody else does and that I look weird and everyone will take the mickey, and she tells me so then makes me feel awkward. She actually knows hardly nothing about fashion because she's a lot older than me, and the clothes I wear are not untrendy or weird looking because I wear clothes that I see lots of young girls wearing, and I never get ridiculed at all. Plus everything I wear is always in the fashion shops, and I just KNOW I look stylish. Plus I have an NT cousin who is the same age as me and is an expert with fashion, and she sometimes picks my clothes for me.....OK, enough with all this proof that I don't wear unusual clothes. The point is, I sometimes wish my friend would sometimes keep her opinions to herself.

^ Pretty much. I was also scolded as a kid for lying (mind you I was horrible at it because the truth came out eventually) and figured everyone else followed the whole "do not tell a lie. It's wrong" ordeal. Boy, did the shocking truth hit me hard...

NTs are amazing, period.