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08 May 2013, 8:41 pm

I feel baffled and at a loss for words... I am surely misunderstanding most of what I am reading here....

http://www.theneurotypical.com/about_us.html

Check out the articles link while there... that is much of where my "baffled" has derived from.



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08 May 2013, 8:48 pm

I thought pretty much all websites were already for NTs :roll:



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08 May 2013, 8:58 pm

Spiderpig wrote:
I thought pretty much all websites were already for NTs :roll:


Lol.. yeah.. I suppose I didn't make it the best title or explanation... Sorry :)

Best to just check out the link (if interested) cause my brain is in frazzle mode today.



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08 May 2013, 10:55 pm

Actually, I didn’t realize the “:roll:” could be construed as scorning your choice of title—sorry.

What I tried to convey is my impression after skimming through a site focusing on all the havoc we bring about on the poor NTs who have the misfortune of living with us. It seems like yet another mechanical reaction to any movement in favor of a traditionally disadvantaged collective. In this case, it seemed like, since there are now websites focused on autistics, like this one, there must be others specifically for NTs to make up for such a discrimination against the latter :)



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08 May 2013, 10:58 pm

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Neurotypicals who interact daily in a family, on an intimate level with someone with ASD will find great difficulty in understanding why they are unable to have a complete relationship with their spouse or partner with ASD. This causes the neurotypical to experience feelings of grief, anger, fear and loneliness. Frustration and unhappiness results because they would dearly love to be able to have a normal life with their companion. This situation is no-one's fault. It is differently wired brains attempting to interact on a deep level. This can never work. Just as a child cannot understand adult concepts, then different developmentally wired brains cannot fully interact.


It seems fairly realistic there, though I wouldn't say "never can work". A highly introverted person could be fine with someone who has an ASD, for example; it's just that most people aren't highly introverted.



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08 May 2013, 11:01 pm

A lot of things can be learned if both really want.



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09 May 2013, 1:41 am

Where there is an up - there is a down so to speak.... and I felt like all I read was the down bits there. We misunderstand NT's - don't know how to communicate with them well - but they don't know how to communicate how we understand clearly either. I have had more heartache at the hands of NT's in my life.. so to read about the NT's needing support from the grief we cause them - came as a bit of a shock lol.

It is a two way street - yet everywhere you look, it is one or the other. Not both.

I will look more into the site - maybe I am missing the up bits :)



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09 May 2013, 3:00 am

I think the site serves as a place of comfort to NTs who have an issue of not understanding the AS partner. Many people don't know what AS is like and many people might not understand when a NT person describes their problems. For example, I was unaware of AS until I met my BF. No one understood or was able to help me through the difference in communication we had. It was until I researched and grasped a better understanding of it that I was able to make the effort to help our relationship become compatible. I looked through it and found very recent research on the Autistic brain. It was done in 2011. Thanks for sharing.


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09 May 2013, 3:37 am

Without meaning to sound too harsh, it seems like they are complaining of having to deal with some of the sort social issues, some of the time, that people on the spectrum have to deal with all the time.



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10 May 2013, 10:39 am

The article on that page is not very well written. It's difficult to see its aim.

It appears to be trying to 'validate' the fact that when an NT first encounters AS in someone they are close with, they feel confused. They can also feel depressed because no one around them seems to understand. That can lead to isolation. The NT person with an AS loved one in a way goes through some of the same stuff the AS person does, in a different way, at the hands of other NTs.

That is pretty much what the article says, sum total, in my interpretation anyway.



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11 May 2013, 8:50 am

I was trying to give the site the benefit of the doubt and think it might be good and these people need support until I saw this line.

"this site is for Cassandras and Cassanders everywhere."

I don't believe in that Cassandra syndrome bs.



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11 May 2013, 8:51 am

I didn't notice the Cassandra bit.

I don't know if it is quantifiable or not (as being connected to AS), but, stress does have physical effects on the body. Before an NT understands what's going on in their relationship they could feel enormous stress. If a person internalizes stress or conflict, they could have a myriad of physical effects.