Zombie Pepper Spray
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I really don't think this will work unless it's filled with some powerful acid.
http://www.amazon.com/Zombie-Pepper-Spr ... pper+spray
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Well ... some of the best programmers we have fit that description, as well ... and pepper spray does make them smell better ...
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The mere fact that science may not yet adequately explain an object, event, or experience does not mean the immediate explanation should automatically default to a conspiratorial, extraterrestrial, paranormal, or supernatural cause.
The whole "zombie apocalypse" scenario is rooted in hollywood mixing the subtle differences between zombies and various other types of undead.
Zombies are unique in that the zombification process generally begins when the victim is still alive. The sorcerer or shaman applies some kind of spell that first curses the target to die after a short period. After they have been buried, the zombie awakens and travels to a destination appointed by the sorcerer or shaman who cursed it, usually a farming plantation, where it is put to work. The zombie if completely under the power of it's master, and cannot disobey a command, but the mind is still alive, and still aware of what is going on. Zombies do not need to eat, drink, or sleep, which makes them ideal laborers, but that doesn't mean they don't hunger, thirst, or tire. The horror of the zombie comes not from an endless self-replicating horde of braineaters, but rather the idea of being trapped in your own body, unable to control your own actions. Always hungry but unable to eat. Always thirsty but unable to drink. Always tired but unable to rest. And nobody is coming to save you because all your friends and family believe you to be dead. That is WAY scarier than the "zombie apocalypse" scenario which is why that phrase compels me to exclaim "That is nether the meaning of the word zombie nor the meaning of the word apocalypse!"
Another difference between zombies is most undead, when de-undeadified, return to death. A de-zombified person however will return to life. However they are generally so exhausted from their time as a zombie that they die of starvation, thirst, or exhaustion shortly after they return to normal. A person can be de-zombified by killing the shaman or sorcerer or if the zombie should taste anything sufficiently salty.
It is worth noting that there are rumors that the story of zombification may be based on something voodoo priests can actually do. The "spell" is a combination of a blowfish toxin and hypnosis. There are stories from the Caribbean of people proclaimed legally dead returning home years later, claiming to have been hypnotized into working on a farm. These real-life zombies however would presumably need food, water, and rest.
We describe the particular case of Wilfred Doricent,3 an adolescent schoolboy from a small village in Haiti. One day, Wilfred became terribly ill. He experienced dramatic convulsions, his body had swelled tremendously, and his eyes had turned yellow. Eight days later, Wilfred appeared to have died. This was confirmed by not only the family and family friends present but also by the local medical doctor who could detect no vital signs. Wilfred’s body appeared to show bloating due to rigor mortis and gave off the foul stench of death and rot. He was buried soon thereafter.
Some time afterward, the weekly village cockfight was interrupted as an incognizant figure appeared. The villagers were shocked as they gazed upon the exact likeness of Wilfred. The person was indeed Wilfred, as his family verified by noting scars from old injuries and other such details. Wilfred, however, had lost his memory and was unable to speak or comprehend anything that was said to him. His family had to keep him in shackles so that he wouldn’t harm himself in his incoherent state. It appeared that Wilfred’s body had risen from death, leaving his soul in the possession of some voodoo sorcerer. Word of Wilfred’s “zombiefication” spread quickly throughout the village. It was believed that Wilfred’s uncle, a highly feared voodoo sorcerer who had been engaged in a dispute over land with Wilfred’s family, was the culprit. Wilfred’s uncle was later charged with zombiefication, a crime in Haiti equivalent to murder.
Is this truly a case of supernatural magic? To answer this question, we turn our attention to a highly toxic substance called tetrodotoxin (TTX).
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Gram for gram, TTX is 10,000 times more lethal than cyanide. . . . This neurotoxin has a terrifying modus operandi—25 minutes after exposure it begins to paralyze its victims, leaving the brain fully aware of what’s happening. Death usually results, within hours, from suffocation or heart failure. There is no antidote. But if lucky patients can hang on for 24 hours, they usually recover without further complications. . . .
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TTX is found in various sea creatures and, in particular, in the puffer fish. Puffer fish are a delicacy in Japan known as fugu that only trained and licensed individuals prepare by carefully removing the viscera. Of course, despite the care taken in preparation, about 200 cases of puffer-fish poisoning are reported per year with a mortality rate of 50 percent. The symptoms of the poisoning are as follows (U.S. FDA):
The first symptom of intoxication is a slight numbness of the lips and tongue, appearing between twenty minutes to three hours after eating poisonous puffer fish. The next symptom is increasing paraesthesia in the face and extremities, which may be followed by sensations of lightness or floating. Headache, epigastric pain, nausea, diarrhea, and/or vomiting may occur. Occasionally, some reeling or difficulty in walking may occur. The second stage of the intoxication is increasing paralysis. Many victims are unable to move; even sitting may be difficult. There is increasing respiratory distress. Speech is affected, and the victim usually exhibits dyspnea, cyanosis, and hypotension. Paralysis increases and convulsions, mental impairment, and cardiac arrhythmia may occur. The victim, although completely paralyzed, may be conscious and in some cases completely lucid until shortly before death. Death usually occurs within four to six hours, with a known range of about twenty minutes to eight hours.
Sometimes, however, a victim pronounced dead is lucky enough to wake up just before his funeral and report to his bewildered family that he was fully conscious and aware of his surroundings throughout the entire ordeal. Therefore, TTX has the unusual characteristic that, if a nonlethal dose is given, the brain will remain completely unaffected. If just the right dose is given, the toxin will mimic death in the victim, whose vitals will slow to an immeasurable state, and whose body will show signs of rigor mortis and even produce the odor of rot. Getting such a precise dose would be rare for a case of fugu poisoning, but can easily be caused deliberately by a voodoo sorcerer, say, who could slip the dose into someone’s food or drink.
The secrets of zombiefication are closely guarded by voodoo sorcerers. However, Frère Dodo, a once highly feared voodoo sorcerer, who is now an evangelical preacher and firm denouncer of the voodoo faith, has revealed the process. It turns out that zombiefication is accomplished by slipping the victim a potion whose main ingredient is powder derived from the liver of a species of puffer fish native to Haitian waters.
This provides an explanation for how Wilfred could have been made to seem dead, even under the examination of a doctor. However, we have already said that the TTX paralysis was unlikely to have affected his brain. How does one account for Wilfred’s comatose mental state? The answer is oxygen deprivation. Wilfred was buried in a coffin in which relatively little air could have been trapped. Wilfred’s story probably goes something like this: slowly, the air in Wilfred’s coffin began to run out so that, by the time he snapped out of his TTX-induced paralysis, he had already suffered some degree of brain damage. At that point, his survival instincts kicked in, and he managed to dig himself out of his grave—graves tend to be shallow in Haiti. He probably wandered around for some time before ending up back at the village. This topic was the subject of a horror film, The Serpent and the Rainbow.
Neuropsychiatrist Dr. Roger Mallory, of the Haitian Medical Society, conducted an MRI of zombiefied Wilfred’s brain. He and his colleagues found lesions of the type normally associated with oxygen starvation. It would seem that zombiefication is nothing more then a skillful act of poisoning. The bodily functions of the poisoned person suspend so that he appears dead. After he is buried alive, lack of oxygen damages the brain. If the person is unburied before he really dies from suffocation, he will appear as a soulless creature (“zombie”), as he has lost what makes him human: the thinking processes of the brain.
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/cinema_fi ... s_reality/
^That's interesting about the oxygen depravation. The documentary I saw suggested the victim was controlled via hypnosis, but with the brain damage that might not even be necessary. Just re-educate them or if the damage is to severe, train them like you would an animal.
Also, what kind of sick **** poisons his own nephew?
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Know what works on dogs when you are out jogging or just walking? Pam. Or hairspray. Or what works better yet is a dustbuster. But only on dogs. If you carry a dustbuster and turn it on, even a police dog will run.
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Do zombies even breath?
Seriously though, this whole zombie thing is getting super played out, it hit the gun world a few years back, and we're still seeing the occasional neon green shotgun or AR being marketed for use on zombies.
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