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Jamesy
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13 Jun 2013, 11:23 am

When looking at someone in loads of various photographs is that a good way to figure what kind of person/what there personality is like?

Do you think there is a big difference to how people seem in pics and how them across in real life?



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13 Jun 2013, 11:59 am

I do believe there is a difference. Photos capture just a tiny sliver in time, so expression caught in a photo can be an expression in transition. Also, is the person aware they are being photographed? I believe that is a question that is relevant to both still photographs and movies.

However, if you are looking at loads of photographs, as you say, then maybe. I know when I have a fascination with people, say Howard Hughes, Orson Welles, Louise Brooks, Andy Warhol, Salvador Dali, the mythical Lon Chaney, or any number of other people, I cannot get enough photographs, and I do feel that my mind is piecing together something about them. It's almost like I'm creating a dimensional reconstruction of them in my mind.

However, over the years I have come to realize that the reconstruction is just a projection, an interpretation. For instance if I looked at pictures of my older brother, they don't tell me anything about what he was like, but one would build an impression of him based on his expression and what he was doing. But it would not have the depth of behavior that he had.

I think Howard Hughes is the perfect example. I've looked at dozens maybe hundreds of photo, looking for signs of what was going on with him internally. I just don't see it. There may be hints at some movie footage of him. I can say that what I know about him does get projected onto the picture, so that affects how I see them.

I do identify with your question, but I have come to believe the saying don't judge a book by it's cover is appropriate here.

But if anyone has a different take on it, I would love to hear it. I don't have any answers, just ideas.

*edit* Wait? Did I go off on a tangent and never address you question? I'll have to come back to this after my meeting. (it's lunch time at work)



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18 Jun 2013, 9:10 am

I'm removing this post. I can no longer delete it so I will just edit over it. I'd written during a stressful day and I think it was too terse and sounded too absolute, and I'm absolutely not absolute about anything.



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18 Jun 2013, 4:01 pm

To an extent, body language can be revealing in a photo. But, mainly in unexpected or casual snapshots, In posed photos, the physical placement of everyone, and body language of each individual, is usually due to the instructions of whoever is behind the camera.

People can purposely mask who they are, in photos or in real life, if they are that type of a person.

Mean people can smile and look friendly, friendly people can be near sighted (and squint and frown), or squint at the sun and look like a grump, etc.

It's easier to tell more if I know why it's being asked.

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I think Howard Hughes is the perfect example. I've looked at dozens maybe hundreds of photo, looking for signs of what was going on with him internally. I just don't see it.


What I notice about Hughes in photos is, he never seems to smile or look at the camera (by 'never' I mean, not that I can recall.) He also seems to look downward, and yet with a focus in his expression, as if lost in thought. He also seems to always wear the same clothes, or nearly the same. That's how scientists and people always lost in thought seem to dress. He does not seem very connected with other people in any photo or film I have seen. Indeed he was a tough boss (my father in law once worked for him, though never met him) and 'collected' women instead of seeming to love them.

So those (hints of preoccupation and lack of connection and driven focus) could be hints of a genius mind and/or OCD which - he had both.



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18 Jun 2013, 6:27 pm

Popsicle wrote:
To an extent, body language can be revealing in a photo. But, mainly in unexpected or casual snapshots, In posed photos, the physical placement of everyone, and body language of each individual, is usually due to the instructions of whoever is behind the camera.

People can purposely mask who they are, in photos or in real life, if they are that type of a person.

Mean people can smile and look friendly, friendly people can be near sighted (and squint and frown), or squint at the sun and look like a grump, etc.

It's easier to tell more if I know why it's being asked.

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I think Howard Hughes is the perfect example. I've looked at dozens maybe hundreds of photo, looking for signs of what was going on with him internally. I just don't see it.


What I notice about Hughes in photos is, he never seems to smile or look at the camera (by 'never' I mean, not that I can recall.) He also seems to look downward, and yet with a focus in his expression, as if lost in thought. He also seems to always wear the same clothes, or nearly the same. That's how scientists and people always lost in thought seem to dress. He does not seem very connected with other people in any photo or film I have seen. Indeed he was a tough boss (my father in law once worked for him, though never met him) and 'collected' women instead of seeming to love them.

So those (hints of preoccupation and lack of connection and driven focus) could be hints of a genius mind and/or OCD which - he had both.


I agree with everything you said. There are pictures of him smiling, and he had a very nice smile, but I have not seen many. Many of the pictures I've seen him in seemed to have been taken by a photographer he was not directly engaged with. Like you said, he seems engaged with something else. One photo I am intrigued by is of him shaking hands with Gary Grant. He does not have a mustache, so it must have been prior to his last plane crash. Here is the photo.
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His hand contact may seemed forced and his posture a little stiff. His smile also seems force, but it could be it was just taken at the wrong moment. Or it was staged. The women seem quite taken with Mr. Grant.
Here are a couple pictures where he has a nice smile, but these are about it. I really find him to be fascinating person, and he has an interesting face.

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Also, you are the second person in two days I've heard that has a Howard Hughes connection.