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20 Feb 2014, 6:41 pm

Should movie theaters, schools, malls, stores, restaurants and banks have metal detectors at the entrance for security?



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20 Feb 2014, 10:10 pm

It would anger more customers than anything.
Fewer customers = less revenue.


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21 Feb 2014, 2:32 am

Depends on location. In Detroit, I would say that's a fairly good idea.



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21 Feb 2014, 2:49 am

Raptor wrote:
It would anger more customers than anything.
Fewer customers = less revenue.
Also more cost sense they have to pay for the metal detectors & security guards to watch em. I'm not against schools having them because kids & teens should NOT be packing even if they aren't intending to use em. I think the post office should have them for employees & the phrase "going postal" explains why.


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21 Feb 2014, 6:12 am

No. Because for every school or theater etc. where there is a shooting,
there are tens of thousands where there isn't a shooting.
The odds of me being in a school or theater when a shooting takes place,
are probably about the same as me winning the lottery.



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21 Feb 2014, 6:24 am

Housedays wrote:
Should movie theaters, schools, malls, stores, restaurants and banks have metal detectors at the entrance for security?


Why? Are you shareholder of an factory for security entrances?



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21 Feb 2014, 11:43 pm

Some banks already have metal detectors and other security deterrents at the entrance. I imagine in a heavy crime neighbourhood there would be metal detectors in malls or department stores.



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22 Feb 2014, 12:42 am

Wouldn't everyone with a set of keys set it off? I think it would be annoying and overkill to have them everywhere although I imagine some late night movie theatres have pat downs, I have been patted down at concerts.



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22 Feb 2014, 2:02 am

I'm not going to any movie theater that does pat downs or metal detectors. Not only is that excessively invasive but I want to have a means to shoot back if someone wants to shoot at me.


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22 Feb 2014, 2:26 am

rapidroy wrote:
Wouldn't everyone with a set of keys set it off? I think it would be annoying and overkill to have them everywhere although I imagine some late night movie theatres have pat downs, I have been patted down at concerts.
It might be better to walk through xRay machines because guns can be made with mostly plastic & very little metal nowadays thou guns that cant be detected by metal detectors are banned in America but that doesn't stop the criminals from trafficking them. I think the pat down at concerts would be cops looking for drugs especially if you were a teen then.


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22 Feb 2014, 7:43 am

do you run a security agency? or are you proposing a welfare/employment program that would end up with massive lines in from of every building there is and slow everyone's entrance to everything

I would simply speed up my joining of the commune if this occurred (or barring that walk off into the desert)

have you ever stood in a TSA line at an airport? or at the place in any government building where they do this to everyone. You need two security guards to check all your stuff and for every alarm the person gets patted down. Womyn get pulled over for bras, your shoes/belts come off - for every building/store you go into?

I would have to go out and buy a new makeup mirror and throw away the one in my backpack, I could no longer carry my nail clippers with me, or probably half the stuff I do just to speed up the annoyance I already have. forget it, it would just lead me to be so angry I would actually go postal in society.


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22 Feb 2014, 11:09 pm

nick007 wrote:
It might be better to walk through xRay machines because guns can be made with mostly plastic & very little metal nowadays thou guns that cant be detected by metal detectors are banned in America but that doesn't stop the criminals from trafficking them.


It's so inconvenient that criminals can't follow laws.


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22 Feb 2014, 11:37 pm

greengeek wrote:
nick007 wrote:
It might be better to walk through xRay machines because guns can be made with mostly plastic & very little metal nowadays thou guns that cant be detected by metal detectors are banned in America but that doesn't stop the criminals from trafficking them.


It's so inconvenient that criminals can't follow laws.


From my perspective, a little flaw with this thinking is that you never know when a person might suddenly go from being a nice, law-abiding citizen. Everyone is a non criminal until that moment when they become a criminal. And we cannot assume that ever person that walks through the door of a public building is going to hurt someone else, or pull out a gun. I am looking for the day when one of these mass shooters is affirmed to have Aspergers and the wild right wing religious fanatics start saying that Aspies need to be locked up, confined, institutionalized immediately as a preventative measure. And right wing extremist groups are just looney enough to do it. on more than one occasion after the last few shootings, one or more of my siblings began making the comparisons with my behaviorisms. One of my siblings has threatened to try convincing my Psychiatrist that I am not safe to be out in public. I despise guns. Cant stand them. Would not touch one. I hate video games. I don't like any computer games other than word games and I have not had a physical altercation with anyone in over 40 years. I have, however, on 3 occasions during my life had someone stuff a shotgun in my face because they felt threatened by my demeanor and appearance. I have been terminated from a job because I "created a hostile and threatening" work environment, although I had never cursed or raised my voice at anyone, or gotten into an argument with anyone. The complaints were made simply because I kept to myself, didn't socialize and sometimes grunted or growled during my work, at no one in particular. (BTW I am 5'11 inches 235 pounds and have always worked out, but rarely smile at anyone)

I have had women in stores grab their little children behind themselves to shield them from the "ogre" (my own words), and grabbed their purses when they see me. (again btw, I have never even been inside a police station, let alone been arrested for anything in my life.



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23 Feb 2014, 1:00 am

nick007 wrote:
It might be better to walk through xRay machines because guns can be made with mostly plastic & very little metal nowadays thou guns that cant be detected by metal detectors are banned in America but that doesn't stop the criminals from trafficking them. I think the pat down at concerts would be cops looking for drugs especially if you were a teen then.


Please link to an incident involving an "undetectable" gun. While it's possible to make a single shot zip gun from non-metallic materials, I've yet to hear of a crime involving one, and all the examples I've ever seen have been extremely crude and more likely to harm the user than any potential target. Better to use a nylon reinforced shiv if you're trying to get a weapon past a metal detector.


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