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09 Oct 2014, 9:26 pm

So my mom is replacing the dining room floor. When she was screwing down the particle board I asked if I could help and she said no. Then I asked if I could help while she was laying down the laminate and she said no. A couple hours later she was breaking down boxes to haul away and I was sitting on the couch playing with my phone, she turns to me and asks "Well, are you going to help or sit on your ass all day?". NT logic. :roll:



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09 Oct 2014, 9:28 pm

Your mum sounds a lot like mine.


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09 Oct 2014, 9:31 pm

"NT logic."

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09 Oct 2014, 9:56 pm

That's ironic.


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09 Oct 2014, 9:59 pm

Mick Avory has more logic than my mum.


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10 Oct 2014, 12:40 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
"NT logic."

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*smirk* I was thinking the same thing.


OP, your mom sounds like a really "fun" person to be around.


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10 Oct 2014, 12:51 am

It reminds me of my parents. I asked if I can help & often they often said No & they also complained alot about how they had to do things & that I didn't contribute enough.


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10 Oct 2014, 1:01 am

My mom is a great person, she's just an N.T. she's just particular and doesn't get the fact that things that seem obvious to her (such as the fact that breaking down boxes I can do) don't automatically occur to me. If you want something done ask me to do it. Especially when you've been doing something I couldn't help with.

And that I dont quite grasp N.T. logic...



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10 Oct 2014, 1:19 am

i'll join the bandwagon.

your mom sounds like my parents too, dad especially. (no, she legitimately does). he'll also see me struggling with something, take it away from he and do it all for me and complain that i'm lazy.


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10 Oct 2014, 1:23 am

Halfmadgenius wrote:
My mom is a great person

Sorry, I didn't mean any offence with what I said above. It just didn't sound very nice to speak to you like that when you had already offered to help twice.

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things that seem obvious to her (such as the fact that breaking down boxes I can do) don't automatically occur to me. If you want something done ask me to do it.

Yeah, things like that don't usually occur to me either. Thankfully ever since I was diagnosed my mother has realized that I'm not ignoring her, so now she'll just ask me if I don't get that she wants help. and that works great.


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10 Oct 2014, 1:06 pm

The OP's story reminds me of what I heard about my late grandmother. Her daughter in law (my uncle's wife) offered to help and my grandmother told her she could manage by herself. Later my grandmother complained that even if she said she didn't need any help, her daughter in law should still have helped. Where's the logic? Why didn't she accept her daughter in law's help when it was offered. I actually believe that my grandmother had autism. So maybe it's autistic logic, too.



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10 Oct 2014, 1:47 pm

jk1 wrote:
The OP's story reminds me of what I heard about my late grandmother. Her daughter in law (my uncle's wife) offered to help and my grandmother told her she could manage by herself. Later my grandmother complained that even if she said she didn't need any help, her daughter in law should still have helped. Where's the logic? Why didn't she accept her daughter in law's help when it was offered. I actually believe that my grandmother had autism. So maybe it's autistic logic, too.
It makes me think of passive-aggressive behavior.


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10 Oct 2014, 3:27 pm

The event with your mother doesn't necessarily have to have such profound meaning, not to say that it couldn't be strange logic. What I mean, though, is it probably has very little to do with some bizarre logical process of her expecting you to help her regardless of dismissing your offers to help, and probably shouldn't be assessed for being logic in the first place unless she stated it in a way to suggest it as such (something like, "When I said I didn't need help, you were supposed to know that meant that I needed help."). It may just have to do with how her mind works, and doesn't.

For example, my father took me to pick up fast food to take home last Wednesday night, and we do this almost every Wednesday night. There was a huge soda spill at the counter, so the employees were rushing to clean it up, so they were understandably distracted. We got the order after a little longer a wait, got back to my place where he noticed there was no sauce for the chicken strips he had ordered. He held a rather judging tone and assessed their incompetence of having not given him the sauce he had asked for when they asked him what kind of sauce he wanted. I was there, they were too distracted and forgot to ask, and he never asked himself... he must have remembered asking for the buffalo sauce he asked for the week prior, but was certain that moment a full week ago was only fifteen minutes prior. Just for context, he's in his early fifties(becoming rather forgetful), and it doesn't seem to help anyone's patience/irritability levels or cognitive ability when one hasn't eaten for a while like neither of us had, and it was rather late in the evening for him at that point. That doesn't make excuse for his unpleasant attitude, but it does make his behavior make sense to take in all of the context of the situation and let it slide... Which seems better for my peace of mind and his rather than expecting constant perfect behavior to shine through human frailty, and to judge for when it does not.

It's completely possible your mother was so distracted she shrugged off your offers of help without really thinking, and then wondered why your help never came... kind of like how it's possible to eat a whole meal while watching a favorite show and then wonder where the food went if not mindful to taste the food. It's maybe also possible she was tired, hungry, and as consequence cranky after having done such work and made the mistake of speaking poorly chosen words at the sight of your relaxed state.



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11 Oct 2014, 12:27 am

NT logic: Using Autism as an insult when some of the most intelligent people happen to be autistic and the NT using the Insult is mediocre intellect at best!


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