What's your feelings about vaccinations?

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24 Oct 2014, 1:34 pm

With the flu or some virus going around lately, I'm hearing that people who've had the flu vaccine seem to fall ill with the flu soon after getting the jab!

I feel fine so I'm not taking anything, but what do you think?



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24 Oct 2014, 2:00 pm

I think the vaccine works, and that science is more valid than stuff you "heard". I don't get a flu vaccine, though, since I like getting the time off.



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24 Oct 2014, 2:50 pm

I have had flu and disease vaccinations all my life, and even some exotic ones, like the Anthrax shots. Basically they have a very high degree of safety. I have never had a serious reaction, though some do make you feel achy or sore for a day or so (like Flus, Typhoid). But that is a small thing and saves you from getting the real illness's which are week or multi-week no fun at all. I just had the latest Flu shot. I did feel tired and achy one day afterwards. But now I don't have to be germaphobic if the flu hits our area.



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24 Oct 2014, 2:55 pm

Flu vaccinations? Over here in the Neth, only the older people (about 60+) get those, and maybe other vulnerable groups. Everybody else just has to build up their resistance by themselves, and when we're unlucky we just get sick when there's an epidemic. And then hope we get over it.


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24 Oct 2014, 3:20 pm

I don't do vaccinations but it's not because of the thimersol/mercury. It's because I'm allergic to the phosphate used in most of them as the 2nd preservative.
I am NOT anti-vaccination, however I am questioning the need for two ways of preserving vaccines. The amount of phosphates in US products astounds me. Where does it all come from? When I had fish tanks I knew it could poison the fish. Out in the country the USDA is careful how much farm phosphates (from animal waste) run off into the drinking water. But it's ok to put it in our toothpaste, mouthwash, processed meats and cheeses, cereals. Oh and it's an organophosphate, so we use it to kill bugs too.
I'm really allergic so it's really like poison to me. Sorry if this sounds like a rant. I just feel the need to bring this up once in awhile.



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25 Oct 2014, 12:35 am

I'm not against vaccines, of course, but I tend to avoid getting them myself because I'm scared of needles.



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25 Oct 2014, 1:18 am

JitakuKeibiinB wrote:
I'm not against vaccines, of course, but I tend to avoid getting them myself because I'm scared of needles.


Shots aren't fun, but you can do it. Just don't look at it and concentrate on something else. In the time it takes to realize it hurts its basicallly over. Some hurt some don't but all are over in a seond or two.



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25 Oct 2014, 3:10 am

Toy_Soldier wrote:
Shots aren't fun, but you can do it. Just don't look at it and concentrate on something else. In the time it takes to realize it hurts its basicallly over. Some hurt some don't but all are over in a seond or two.

Mine tend to end in a second or two because that's when I faint and wake up in a hospital bed. That's a lot scarier than the shot itself, and I can't just willpower it away, unfortunately.



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25 Oct 2014, 8:47 am

I have heard some scary stories about vaccinations. Although it's not that common, some people do get really sick after the vaccination shot. I seem to have a good immune system and don't catch the flu when the people around me have it. So the vaccination is not worth the risk.



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25 Oct 2014, 10:00 am

Don't feel bad about fainting. Its involuntary and I have seen soldiers do it. They made us walk arm in arm thru shot lines because it is so common.

I guess you could get yours lying down if you requested. Flu shots are not really necessary unless you are in a at-risk group. But it would probably be good to keep up with other type shots as required (ie tetnus) and in a way slowly acclimate yourself to getting them. I do feel there is a lot of truth to the statement that you can get used to anything after a while.

My lifestyle was always such that I already was giving the old immune system a workout at it was without needing anything avoidable. My latest achievement was Lyme disease. Check! :lol:



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25 Oct 2014, 10:01 am

I got the flu vaccine this past week and I've had no unusual problems from getting it. The myths, paranoia and lack of education about the vaccines drive me foolish and I feel like I'm the only non-medical person who knows anything about them. You can't get the flu from the flu shot, the virus is DEAD. Your body creates antibodies for it anyway. Some people may develop mild flu-like symptoms after the shot but they don't last long and aren't nearly as bad as the flu. Influenza should not be confused with "stomach flu". Most people think they don't have the flu because they don't feel nauseated but it really often doesn't have stomach symptoms. Having to listen to other people and their ignorance and paranoia every single year... that's what I'm really sick of.



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25 Oct 2014, 4:23 pm

I always get a fever for a day or so after any vaccination. I seldom get sick in general thou but when I do I get very sick for a short time like a high fever & completely better after a couple days. I have bad allergy problems too so I think my immune system is hyperactive or something.


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26 Oct 2014, 2:35 am

Vaccinations are a good way to not get sick.

That said, I never took the swine flu vaccine despite belonging to two risk groups, because I heard it could lead to paralysis. I just can't become more disadvantaged and lose the freedom of movement.


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28 Oct 2014, 4:09 pm

Buttercup wrote:
I don't do vaccinations but it's not because of the thimersol/mercury. It's because I'm allergic to the phosphate used in most of them as the 2nd preservative.
I am NOT anti-vaccination, however I am questioning the need for two ways of preserving vaccines. The amount of phosphates in US products astounds me. Where does it all come from? When I had fish tanks I knew it could poison the fish. Out in the country the USDA is careful how much farm phosphates (from animal waste) run off into the drinking water. But it's ok to put it in our toothpaste, mouthwash, processed meats and cheeses, cereals. Oh and it's an organophosphate, so we use it to kill bugs too.
I'm really allergic so it's really like poison to me. Sorry if this sounds like a rant. I just feel the need to bring this up once in awhile.

As long as it helps preserve food, it's probably a benefit. Where it is really a danger is in washing detergents, where it is generally not extracted from waste water, it goes into waterways and acts like fertilizer, stimulating the growth of algae, which clouds the water, and kills native plant life, which causes erosion and silt buildup. That's basically what killed the Chesapeake Bay.



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28 Oct 2014, 5:32 pm

Vaccines are mandatory in my country (each child must take some of them at specific ages) so I have quite a lot of experience with them and I must admit I was ALWAYS sick after getting any vaccine at school. It was never the illness the vaccine was against but I could never get away without catching a cold afterwards.

Vaccines make your body fight against the false virus that is in the vaccine and it disturbs your immunity system. If your immunity system is not strong enough you will catch anything that is currently in the air because your body will have no strength left to fight the actual danger while busy making antibodies for the "intruder" brought in by vaccine.



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28 Oct 2014, 6:51 pm

I'd much rather put up with a day or two of "flu-like symptoms" from a flu vaccine once a year than to ever again have to endure a week or more of feeling like I've been beat up, violated, eviscerated, run over and set on fire.


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