swbluto wrote:
aghogday wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Fnord wrote:
swbluto wrote:
He was smart, unique, socially awkward and often did things that annoyed people in ways that he didn't predict. Furthermore, his voice patterns were unusual and he was often louder than he needed to be and he clearly didn't fit the "social norms". Did Steve Urkel have aspergers?
I'm sorry to break this to you, but Steve Urkel was a
fictional character that was protrayed by an
actor.
That means that Steve was
not real, and that the character's behavior was all an act put on for the laughs. So any resemblance to any other person, living or dead, is all in the mind of the viewer.
Really.
What??? NO WAY! You broke my reality. HmmmMMPPPHHHhhhh...
Nah. I just thought it would be amusing to diagnose a fictional character. There's a reason why I chose to put hitler's post-mortem diagnosis in the autism forum, and Steve Urkel in this one.

Could it have anything to do with stereotypical behaviors, and our normal tendency to categorize all things based on preconcieved notions?
It might. Categorization based on observable properties seems to be a fundamental evolutionary trait, for it's what largely enabled one to categorize that animal in the tundra with an orange body, a cat-like shape, and black stripes as a tiger, which then further enabled us to categorize it as a dangerous animal. It's also what allowed a man to categorize a figure with a person-like appearance with long-hair and a feminine face as a female, with the possible further categorization of a nubile female who might have mating value. Now looking at the fundamental reason for those categorizations (The first is "threat detection" and the second being "mate identification"), I wonder if there's a grand over-arching categorization for the set of fundamental categorizations that humans use to categorize?
But, also, I was thinking about the humorous aspect and the potential for fervent, silly debates. Like, maybe someone would say something like "No, Steve Urkel often expressed emotions quite well through his facial expressions, so he couldn't have aspergers!". I don't know what the primary underlying reason for wanting to be silly is... maybe, a display of imagination? *scratches head*
It's a sad commentary, but we also categorize others as whether or not they are worthwhile genetic material to compete for resources. Humans are part of the animal kingdom and regardless of our attempt at civilization, we retain much our nature as just another creature in the animal kingdom.
Humans naturally torture the weak ones, particularly around the time of puberty, and conversely sometimes females torture the more attractive females seen as competition. Sometimes in a bar a bigger or more aggresive guy will get picked on from another aggressive guy to prove alpha male status.
This stuff happens all around us and we come up with rational civilized answers, instead of seeing the biological underpinnings of the behavior. Fortunately, though, we are domesticated and have the ability to control many of our "wild" instincts.
Some can't though, and that is a large part of the reason we have prisons; to tame the animal nature that remains.
Personally, I speculate that people with Aspergers are more domesticated than most and less likely to get into trouble with the law, but it is only anecdotal speculation on my part.
Ever look at the mug pictures of criminals; not too many domesticated looking people in there. Again though just speculation on my part.