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02 Apr 2007, 8:22 pm

For those who are Jewish like me, have a Happy Passover! :)



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02 Apr 2007, 10:36 pm

Happy, beautiful, Passover to you too!


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08 Apr 2007, 4:01 pm

Yes, thank you. And happy Easter too. The lamb of God is the shared symbol. The blood of the lamb, saved the Jews in Egypt and the blood of the lamb if God, is saving the christians too. we share that much.

Baruch ata Adonai!

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08 Apr 2007, 4:19 pm

Hehehe, happy Passover, and thanks for the klezmer.



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10 Apr 2007, 10:22 pm

For vegetarians its a beet.


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10 Apr 2007, 10:26 pm

Moving this to Random Discussions.


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10 Apr 2007, 10:44 pm

Star wrote:
Yes, thank you. And happy Easter too. The lamb of God is the shared symbol. The blood of the lamb, saved the Jews in Egypt and the blood of the lamb if God, is saving the christians too. we share that much.

Baruch ata Adonai!

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Saw something on the news a few days ago that there is no real evidence to suggest there was a large Exodus of Jews from Eqypt(or that they were ever there). Like most the Bible it maybe more allegory than historical fact.



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10 Apr 2007, 11:19 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
Star wrote:
Yes, thank you. And happy Easter too. The lamb of God is the shared symbol. The blood of the lamb, saved the Jews in Egypt and the blood of the lamb if God, is saving the christians too. we share that much.

Baruch ata Adonai!

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Saw something on the news a few days ago that there is no real evidence to suggest there was a large Exodus of Jews from Eqypt(or that they were ever there). Like most the Bible it maybe more allegory than historical fact.


The Egyptions had also recorded the events, though, completely independently. The bible has a great deal of information that has been verified to be historically and chronologically accurate.



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10 Apr 2007, 11:22 pm

Untrue.

The Pharaoh the Exodus supposedly occurred under never lived.


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10 Apr 2007, 11:27 pm

Excuse me Mr. Contradict My University History Professor And Text, but just what do you base that off of? He was Ramses II.



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10 Apr 2007, 11:31 pm

since jesus was jewish and i think he was god but not christian, happy passover to you! :D


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10 Apr 2007, 11:36 pm

Discussing Exodus is exactly the right thing to do on Passover. And if "Happy Passover" belongs in random discussion more than it does religion, all I can say is "hmmmm, maybe this thread needs to exodus back."


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10 Apr 2007, 11:39 pm

i love jesus. and i am not just saying that, really. if you read anything he said and taught, he was a wonderful man. seriously. even if you read all those books that did not make it into the cannon. simply amazing. he could only be god in my opinion. :wink:


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11 Apr 2007, 12:09 am

Flagg wrote:
Untrue.

The Pharaoh the Exodus supposedly occurred under never lived.


Given that he is not expressly named, other than as Pharaoh or Hebrew equivalent (pharaoh is not in any case an accurate representation of the Egyptian title meaning great house or palace; something like per-ha I suspect) in the Torah, I am not sure on what basis you make this claim, Flagg. Often the Pahraoh earlier in Shmoth/Exodus is identified with Seti I, later Ramses II (the Great) both certainly existed. Given the posthumous treatment in ancient records of the name of Akhenaten, another monotheist, though not a Yahwist, I am not sure whether a lack of Egyptian references to Moshe/Moses would be frightfully conclusive. It would not be the proudest moment in Egyptian history, though the reign of Ramses II was in many respects successful; the Hebrew uprising may not have set back The names of the cities the Hebrews were involved in constructing for the Egyptians in the Exodus account may point to dating. What precisely are you stating, Flagg? Do you mean that this Pharaoh never lived in the sense that you deny the events of the narrative, and ergo that the protagonists in the account are considered equally fictitious? Actually I find it difficult to wholeheartedly rejoice in the Exodus story given the fate of the Egyptian firstborn - yes earlier it was Hebrew children at the time of Moses' birth; still...

Pesach tovah (apologies for errors).

I hope last week held an enjoyable Passover and Easter.

Baruch ata Adonai means "The Lord bless you," does it not, Star? Yes lamb and its blood a shared symbol. Much else is shared. Would someone wish to comment on a question I raised earlier in another thread on the "appropriation" of the Tanak by my fellow Christians? Some passages in Isaiah are difficult for Christians to read without associating them with Jesus, but in at least some cases the context points to some of the prophecies at least carrying another meaning. Perhaps prophecies may sometimes have more than one application. Thoughts, anyone?


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11 Apr 2007, 12:13 am

aspiebegood wrote:
Discussing Exodus is exactly the right thing to do on Passover. And if "Happy Passover" belongs in random discussion more than it does religion, all I can say is "hmmmm, maybe this thread needs to exodus back."


Do not be too offended by Flagg; he means well, some of the time at least. Cast thy fiery darts at me, Flagg! I may deserve some of them.


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11 Apr 2007, 2:03 am

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/017240.php

I was basing it on what Dr Hawass has said on the subject.

Also from a historical and factual point of view the Bible has a very low percent of being based on reality.

I could merely list all the verses in every book and label which can be back up by non-biblical evidence.

so 23,145 verses in the Old Testament.
7,957 verses in the New Testament.

Now what percent can be validated?