do you agree that this is offensive to women?

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24 Feb 2016, 12:40 pm

Do you agree that's it's offensive and a violation of there humans rights for women when men assume they are not safe to walk home on there own at night and need company to get home?



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24 Feb 2016, 1:00 pm

I'ts polite to offer to accompany, but shouldn't be forced. A no is a no!



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24 Feb 2016, 1:07 pm

Not to me. It's actually often not safe for anyone to walk alone at night, especially in some areas.



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24 Feb 2016, 1:13 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Do you agree that's it's offensive and a violation of there humans rights for women when men assume they are not safe to walk home on there own at night and need company to get home?

It's up to the woman. It's very polite to offer as it shows your concern. But if she says she's okay on her own, then that's that.



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24 Feb 2016, 1:17 pm

Are 'thoughts' a violation of anyone's rights? I'd say no but It would be interesting to see what everyone else thinks.


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24 Feb 2016, 1:18 pm

Yigeren wrote:
Not to me. It's actually often not safe for anyone to walk alone at night, especially in some areas.

^this.


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24 Feb 2016, 1:42 pm

Even when a woman says "no" do men still not stop insisting?



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24 Feb 2016, 1:45 pm

If you are offering it for safety reasons, and don't push yourself upon them, then no, its just being polite/pragmatic.

If you attempt to force the issue or are only doing it to try and get an invite inside then yes.



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24 Feb 2016, 1:48 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Even when a woman says "no" do men still not stop insisting?

If she says no and the man insists then he is harassing her.



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24 Feb 2016, 1:54 pm

I still don't think I'd care even if he insisted. I'd say "no, I'm leaving now," and walk away. Problem solved. Now, if he started following me, then I'd start to get mad.



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24 Feb 2016, 1:54 pm

Yigeren wrote:
I still don't think I'd care even if he insisted. I'd say "no, I'm leaving now," and walk away. Problem solved. Now, if he started following me, then I'd start to get mad.


That's the same with me.


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24 Feb 2016, 2:27 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Do you agree that's it's offensive and a violation of there humans rights for women when men assume they are not safe to walk home on there own at night and need company to get home?


Depends. If the man offers the same to men, then he is treating women as equals. That's good. If his offer is based on a real threat then it is thoughtful. But if he's doing it merely because women are weaker or automatically victims, then he is perpetuating and even enforcing that idea. That is offensive. If he offers and the offer is declined and he persists, he is exactly the kind of man a careful person wants to avoid on their walk home.


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24 Feb 2016, 2:49 pm

Oh crap I misunderstood the question...lol, ignore my post of the thought violations.

Anyways I think it kind of depends, I myself don't really find it offensive if a guy expresses concern of me walking alone at night. I am pretty quite petite so it looks like if someone tried assaulting me I would have a hard time defending myself females have also had concern about that but its always my size not that I am a female that they bring up. Now granted I think if I got assaulted depending on how some people may be underestimating my full abilities especially if adrenaline kicked in...but the concern feels more thoughtful(though sometimes entirely unnecessary) than offensive when I've had it directed at me. However I would be offended if their reasoning was solely that I am a female and they wouldn't have similar concern about a guy my size walking around alone at night...I mean barely 5 feet and under 100 pounds isn't much for size.

But also in some areas its just a bad idea for anyone to walk around alone regardless.


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24 Feb 2016, 3:14 pm

It isn't the least bit offensive. I would feel like the man wanted to look after me, unless he was forcing it.

Women are generally weaker. Urgh.

Do we keep having to have these basic arguments on this forum? Can't we spread out to interesting topics?


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24 Feb 2016, 3:19 pm

smudge wrote:
Can't we spread out to interesting topics?


Got any ideas? :)


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24 Feb 2016, 3:22 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Do you agree that's it's offensive and a violation of there humans rights for women when men assume they are not safe to walk home on there own at night and need company to get home?


I think this rule has been invented so that men can get the chance to be invited at the women's place after the party.