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02 Oct 2016, 7:21 pm

i heard someone insult someone recently by called them a mongoloid retard. isn't this offensive to those with down syndrome?



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02 Oct 2016, 7:23 pm

I find that utterly repulsive to call anyone that slur.


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02 Oct 2016, 7:39 pm

My mother still calls people mongoloids.
In her generation, this was perfectly acceptable language.
It wasn't used as an insult, just a description.
She hasn't caught up on political correctness yet.
She still calls me deaf and dumb, although I'm technically neither.


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02 Oct 2016, 7:43 pm

Raleigh wrote:
She still calls me deaf and dumb, although I'm technically neither.


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02 Oct 2016, 7:54 pm

Raleigh wrote:
My mother still calls people mongoloids.
In her generation, this was perfectly acceptable language.
It wasn't used as an insult, just a description.
She hasn't caught up on political correctness yet.
She still calls me deaf and dumb, although I'm technically neither.


I know it's your mother, but is my mother called me that, I'd hit her with a clue-by-four.


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02 Oct 2016, 8:00 pm

^ sounds bad.
Probably is bad.
I guess I'm used to it.
I don't expect her to ever change.


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02 Oct 2016, 8:05 pm

Raleigh wrote:
She hasn't caught up on political correctness yet.
She still calls me deaf and dumb, although I'm technically neither.


On the one hand, good for her for not worrying about political "correctness."

On the other hand, calling someone dumb or stupid is a harsh insult no matter the context of the situation. My dad does that too and there's no way of watering that down. He claims he's joking, but even so, I don't take it that way and I make it clear.

You're not just technically neither. If you can hear, then you're not deaf. If you can speak, then you're not 'dumb.'


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02 Oct 2016, 8:11 pm

Meistersinger wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
My mother still calls people mongoloids.
In her generation, this was perfectly acceptable language.
It wasn't used as an insult, just a description.
She hasn't caught up on political correctness yet.
She still calls me deaf and dumb, although I'm technically neither.


I know it's your mother, but is my mother called me that, I'd hit her with a clue-by-four.


fwiw deaf and dumb is an archaic way as saying someone is a deaf and unable to speak not stupid like one might immediately assume



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02 Oct 2016, 8:17 pm

^ yes, that's correct.
That's the context my mother used.
Not that I was stupid.
Although she called me stupid enough times too.

Mothers.
Gotta love 'em.


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02 Oct 2016, 8:20 pm

What is a mongoloid?


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02 Oct 2016, 8:21 pm

A mongoloid is an archaic way to describe someone with Down syndrome.


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02 Oct 2016, 9:09 pm

I'm glad they changed it to Down syndrome sounds so much nicer.



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02 Oct 2016, 9:12 pm

Mon·gol·oid
of or relating to the broad division of humankind including the indigenous peoples of eastern Asia, Southeast Asia, and the Arctic region of North America.

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02 Oct 2016, 9:13 pm

I find any disability related slur to be offensive. That one is on the top of the list, because I have a friend who has Down Syndrome. I'm surprised that people still use that particular slur these days.


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02 Oct 2016, 9:15 pm

Raleigh wrote:
A mongoloid is an archaic way to describe someone with Down syndrome.


mongoloid is also an historical term for east asian people. historically referred to as the mongoloid race.