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12 Nov 2019, 8:36 pm

Everyone I know is freaking out about this. Jan 1, 2020 is officially labeled doomsday for content creators, even those that don't monetize videos. I don't feel like going through a backlog of over 600 videos trying to see what grey area content is considered for kids. If I make one mistake and the FTC finds something I overlooked, I face a $42,000 fine for EVERY video that violates FTC regulations. YouTube recommends consulting a lawyer if I'm not sure if the content in a video is friendly for kids.

Look this up. View videos of people who are talking about this.

I'm currently in a panic hitting the age restriction checkbox on every video right now.


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13 Nov 2019, 5:22 pm

from a fellow aspie content creator my best advice is to not mourn the future as its still unknown and only restrict those you know for a fact kids should not be exposed to. I'm currently running a toy review channel and a gaming channel and I've recently started age restricting videos for games such as gta or lollipop chainsaw from the upload and it saves a lot of anxiety. Give that a try and let me know if it works. Till all are one, stay outmoded and always remember that sometimes the smallest things can make the biggest changes of all.


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21 Nov 2019, 11:17 am

I'm scared. :( I just upload videos for the heck of it, I don't do it for money at all, and there's no way I could afford it if I got fined because of some stupid reason in one of my Sims gameplays or whatever. And my videos are for *all* ages, not just for kids.

Maybe I should just delete my whole channel. But all the years I've spent on it, gone in a second. What a waste.

It's not even 2020 yet and already the new year sucks.



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21 Nov 2019, 12:05 pm

If you click on the play bar on this news radio article there is audio of someone with the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) answering questions about youtube and coppa. It seems their main issue involves collecting information from those 13 and under.

https://wgnradio.com/2019/11/20/all-you ... n-youtube/



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21 Nov 2019, 12:09 pm

Don’t make this into another Y2K....

I’m sure there are ways to “get around this.”

Moreover, I have faith that a solution to this will be found.



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21 Nov 2019, 12:14 pm

COPPA has been around and enforced for about 20 years now.

Youtube is making a big deal out of it because they got fined.

Remember the FTC is involved in marketing.



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21 Nov 2019, 12:49 pm

EzraS wrote:
If you click on the play bar on this news radio article there is audio of someone with the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) answering questions about youtube and coppa. It seems their main issue involves collecting information from those 13 and under.

https://wgnradio.com/2019/11/20/all-you ... n-youtube/


I'm going to read the government website that the guy who was interviewed suggested. I'll try to post the break-down here since not everyone should have to read 1000 paragraphs to get the supposed guidelines.



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21 Nov 2019, 1:42 pm

Aspiegaming wrote:
Everyone I know is freaking out about this. Jan 1, 2020 is officially labeled doomsday for content creators, even those that don't monetize videos. I don't feel like going through a backlog of over 600 videos trying to see what grey area content is considered for kids. If I make one mistake and the FTC finds something I overlooked, I face a $42,000 fine for EVERY video that violates FTC regulations. YouTube recommends consulting a lawyer if I'm not sure if the content in a video is friendly for kids.

Look this up. View videos of people who are talking about this.

I'm currently in a panic hitting the age restriction checkbox on every video right now.


Gosh. Your prolific. What UTube show do you produce, may I ask?



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21 Nov 2019, 1:52 pm

Okay, here's what I got:

The articles mention what the man who works at the Federal Trade Commission quoted which is

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Web site or online service directed to children means a commercial Web site or online service, or portion thereof, that is targeted to children.

(1) In determining whether a Web site or online service, or a portion thereof, is directed to children, the Commission will consider its subject matter, visual content, use of animated characters or child-oriented activities and incentives, music or other audio content, age of models, presence of child celebrities or celebrities who appeal to children, language or other characteristics of the Web site or online service, as well as whether advertising promoting or appearing on the Web site or online service is directed to children. The Commission will also consider competent and reliable empirical evidence regarding audience composition, and evidence regarding the intended audience.

Which isn't super specific either. Like person who was conducting the interview brought up, what about people who upload 80's cartoons for nogalstia purposes? Yes, depending on the kid they might like the show but the purpose for the upload is something for adults to look back at. He could not pinpoint this.

The only really specific part I could find was this:
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(2) A Web site or online service shall be deemed directed to children when it has actual knowledge that it is collecting personal information directly from users of another Web site or online service directed to children.

(3) A Web site or online service that is directed to children under the criteria set forth in paragraph (1) of this definition, but that does not target children as its primary audience, shall not be deemed directed to children if it:

(i) Does not collect personal information from any visitor prior to collecting age information; and

(ii) Prevents the collection, use, or disclosure of personal information from visitors who identify themselves as under age 13 without first complying with the notice and parental consent provisions of this part.

(4) A Web site or online service shall not be deemed directed to children solely because it refers or links to a commercial Web site or online service directed to children by using information location tools, including a directory, index, reference, pointer, or hypertext link.

What it seems though it really just depends on youtube collecting info from children who use the website. I doubt youtube would be able to create an AI that would be able to sort through videos in that time. We know they're clearly not going to hire more people. I'm betting that youtube's either going to try to employ a catch-all rule trying to avoid doing as much as input possible. I could see them over time making an algorithm to make it harder to find videos that are in more murky territory like the 80's cartoons.

Overall, I don't think the rules for the FTC aren't super specific since they deal with this on a deal-by-deal basis and the cases are probably pretty clear. YouTube could of seemingly avoided this entire thing by promising not to collect user data but this is google we're talking about.