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28 Feb 2018, 2:49 am

Just trying to get my head round the fact that people can visualise with their eyes open ie if they want to voluntarily visualise something like a cat, for example, they can . I guess this is what artists/architects/interior designers etc can do with ease.


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28 Feb 2018, 3:17 am

That's just the normal way my thought processes work. Everything is in pictures and video. It doesn't require any effort. For years I thought that was how everyone's brain worked but I have a friend who cannot visualise at all.


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28 Feb 2018, 4:39 am

Just normal thinking. For me anyway.

In fact I used to drive folks crazy because I would "hum one tune while another tune is playing on the radio....GAWWWDDD....how can you DO that????". :lol:



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28 Feb 2018, 4:59 am

I have hard time visualizing. Even when I do visualize it's not precise, it's rather like an outline, a concept of what I try to visualize. For example now through the eyes of imagination I'm trying to see the face of a person I've recently met often and I think I see it (with quite an effort though) but if I tried to focus on any detail I'd have no idea how it looks. So yeah, I see only the "concept".

Edit: And whether my eyes are opened or not doesn't seem to make a difference.



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28 Feb 2018, 5:15 am

apus apus wrote:
I have hard time visualizing. Even when I do visualize it's not precise, it's rather like an outline, a concept of what I try to visualize. For example now through the eyes of imagination I'm trying to see the face of a person I've recently met often and I think I see it (with quite an effort though) but if I tried to focus on any detail I'd have no idea how it looks. So yeah, I see only the "concept".

Edit: And whether my eyes are opened or not doesn't seem to make a difference.


I do exactly the same.
I am a painter, but I can never come up with an image in my mind and paint it. I can come up with a concept, but won't know just how it's going to look until it's out on the paper. I can imagine my grandmother's face, but if I try to paint it, it will turn out completely wrong.



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28 Feb 2018, 5:44 am

I'm not a visual person & don't visualize at all


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28 Feb 2018, 7:44 am

There are benefits and drawbacks to being a visual thinker. I once passed out - on a public transportation vehicle, no less - reading a book of all things. There was a part in the book that described someone shoving a needle under another person's skin in fairly high detail.

Now, I'm not a fan of needles. The very thought of having one under my skin discomforts me, let alone actually having a needle in there. So I was bound to faint right then and there.


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28 Feb 2018, 2:38 pm

firemonkey wrote:
Just trying to get my head round the fact that people can visualise with their eyes open ie if they want to voluntarily visualise something like a cat, for example, they can . I guess this is what artists/architects/interior designers etc can do with ease.


We just do. When i think of a cat it just pops into my mind, as if i opened up a photo viewer and showed a static image of a cat. For me, it is equally weird that some cannot do it, my sister for example thinks in words. Mind boggling!


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28 Feb 2018, 5:02 pm

I can't describe how its happening. It just does. It gets there by itself and requires no effort. I think "a cat" and I see a cat, I think "different" and the picture changes into a slideshow of many different cats changing very fast. It looks as if a half transparent hologram appeared in front of my eyes out of nowhere. I can choose to focus on it, on the scene behind it(reality) or both at the same time. For me it's even easier to visualize things with my eyes open than closed. I do it all the time - I am a visual thinker. I always walk with my eyes open and the scenery passes by me but I see something else: my memories, thoughts, imaginations, far away places, things, people. There seem to me another layer in front of my eyes, one you could probably see if you wore those glasses:

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And it's actually not easy to paint what I see because the image constantly changes. It's a constant slideshow of pictures and movies, never the same for more than a second. It's also definitely not in HD.



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28 Feb 2018, 5:50 pm

Kiriae wrote:
I can't describe how its happening. It just does. It gets there by itself and requires no effort. I think "a cat" and I see a cat, I think "different" and the picture changes into a slideshow of many different cats changing very fast. It looks as if a half transparent hologram appeared in front of my eyes out of nowhere. I can choose to focus on it, on the scene behind it(reality) or both at the same time. For me it's even easier to visualize things with my eyes open than closed. I do it all the time - I am a visual thinker. I always walk with my eyes open and the scenery passes by me but I see something else: my memories, thoughts, imaginations, far away places, things, people. There seem to me another layer in front of my eyes, one you could probably see if you wore those glasses:
Image


And it's actually not easy to paint what I see because the image constantly changes. It's a constant slideshow of pictures and movies, never the same for more than a second. It's also definitely not in HD.


AR is a good analogy. Or the old "picture in picture".


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28 Feb 2018, 6:46 pm

I am a visual thinker too. Years ago I was talking to an architectural draughtsman about a plan and he sat back in his chair and said “You can really see this and walk around it your head can’t you. That’s quite rare.” That was the first time I realised that not everyone thought like me.

When I think of the name Wrong Planet I see lots of messages in bottles floating in the ocean. I wonder how other visual thinkers see the name?


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28 Feb 2018, 8:02 pm

I can visualise with my eyes open quite easily, tends to just happen when I don't really try to think about it. My daydreams can feel quite real, and sometimes when I snap back to reality it can be a tad disorientating.

But, my visualisation is limited in some ways.

Limitations and cons

-Imaging things from a birds eye view is difficult for me.

- Sometimes mental images are unpleasant and involuntary.

E.g. An intense medical procedure which is described to me in detail, one that I don't particularly want to imagine.

Pros

-Useful when reading a story, or possibly writing one.

- I can make detailed digital 3D models of things just from memory.

-For some reason, I seem to have a natural skill with slider puzzles (managing to solve an 8 piece slider in under 5 seconds...I have a timed app full of them) and predicting what comes next in a pattern of shapes.

- Lucid daydreaming can be fun. :)



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01 Mar 2018, 11:10 am

bunnyb wrote:
When I think of the name Wrong Planet I see lots of messages in bottles floating in the ocean. I wonder how other visual thinkers see the name?

A rapid slideshow of: planet Earth, a spacecraft crashing against it, a close up to dinosaurs in a forest, a picture of a city with skyscrapers and a close up to first person view of a street with lots of cars and people. Then the focus returns to where I currently am.



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01 Mar 2018, 7:19 pm

Kiriae wrote:
bunnyb wrote:
When I think of the name Wrong Planet I see lots of messages in bottles floating in the ocean. I wonder how other visual thinkers see the name?

A rapid slideshow of: planet Earth, a spacecraft crashing against it, a close up to dinosaurs in a forest, a picture of a city with skyscrapers and a close up to first person view of a street with lots of cars and people. Then the focus returns to where I currently am.


Cool. :D


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