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23 Dec 2017, 3:29 am

Those coffins aren't even biodegradable...do you know how much space each individual grave takes? No it is BS, just another form of pollution. When I die I want my body burned, fed to scavengers or donated to science. Seriously grave yards are an environmental concern to....i mean yeah pay tons of money for a laminated non-biodegradable box that takes up space...count me out, I'd rather be cremated when I die. If i end up buried when I die I just want to be wrapped in a biodegradable hemp wrap no dumb expensive coffin that just makes things slower to break down.

"traditional" burial is just a big scam to get your money, don't fall for it a cheap biodegradable coffin or cremation is better for the environment and less costly on the pocket.


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23 Dec 2017, 3:30 am

i think buying big ornate caskets is just another way for the family of the deceased to show off their money during the funeral.


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23 Dec 2017, 3:32 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
i think buying big ornate coffins is just another way for the family of the deceased to show off their money during the funeral.


It largely is, that is why I want my body burned or donated to science...I don't want to add to pollution with my corpse but if it could be of use to science I'd donate it to that.

I mean with the amount of people who will die in the next couple years it is already a problem...like how are graveyards supposed to accommodate all those bodies? Time to look into alternate body disposal, plus all those fancy coffins have no effect on how the body decomposes..why pay thousands of dollars for that when you can just be thrown in the ground coffin free or burnt/processed into ash and someone who cares can throw your ashes back into nature at a nice spot Seems like a better after death thing than your corpse just rotting and decomposing underground.

also apparently i have a rather unusual genetic structure or something, I allowed for a muscle biopsy to be done a few years back and they didn't find anything very significant aside from a slightly strange muscle structure or something like that. So I am a bit weird genetically but doctors don't know why, they at one point thought I might have muscular dystrophy which would be pretty rare for a girl apparantly. But they found that wasn't it and thus far have just found slightly weird genetics but nothing definative about any condition...so basically its like I am a perfectly normal human who has had a few random events of passing out and going unconcious with doctors unable to find a cause for it...aside from the slightly weird DNA they found in the little portion of my leg muscle they took out when I agreed to a muscle biopsy. I mostly just wanted to know what they found but I got a letter back of what they found and most of it made no real sense to me....I have always found anatomy interesting so I would like to know more details. But as far as I know this 'condition' does not affect me much....like gives me weird muscle DNA but they cant find anything else wrong except that and it doesn't cause me any physical problems....like they have tested me for neurological issues that would typically accompany things they have seen in me. But haven't found anything life threatening..its just always been weird because they still haven't been able to tell me anything. Initially they thought I might carry and/or have muscular dystrophy which is more likely for males to develop than female but they found that was not the case.....so basically I have some mystery disorder that doesn't effect my health at least it hasn't yet But yeah I have no idea what it is and even doctors who have seen me are mystified that they cant figure it out....so sometimes hard not to wonder 'what am I'.


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23 Dec 2017, 6:01 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
i think buying big ornate caskets is just another way for the family of the deceased to show off their money during the funeral.


Well that is precisely what it is...that is why I want to be cremated or donated to science when I die, If I am going to die at some point anyways why shouldn't scientists study my body and see if there is anything that an help people in the future and if not why not just let it decompose....I don't want any fancy coffin when i die, takes up too much room, is too expensive plus the body rots anyways, if one insists on burying it at least let it rot naturally without the stupid non-biodegradable expensive as f**k coffins.


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23 Dec 2017, 6:18 am

Once I take my leave from this world, I want my body to just be shoved into a plastic bag and thrown into the sea. Not necessarily eco-friendly, but cheap.


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23 Dec 2017, 7:02 am

Seriously coffins are bullshitt to make money for churches at your cost, why do you live with this and not rebels? Maybe they are right..............but I think it is BS.

She reminds me of the priestess from game of thrones, the one that had that girl burned. But now seems she regetes it at lest on some level.


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23 Dec 2017, 7:31 am

whatamievendoing wrote:
Once I take my leave from this world, I want my body to just be shoved into a plastic bag and thrown into the sea. Not necessarily eco-friendly, but cheap.


Plastic is really bad for the enviroment. I suggest making a simple wooden coffin from materials that would've otherwise just gone to waste... or maybe a really big paper bag? Much more enviroment friendly. :D



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23 Dec 2017, 8:06 am

Many cemeteries now offer "green burials" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_burial ) where an individual's body is NOT embalmed. Instead, it is placed inside a shroud or other biodegradable container which is then buried near a tree and other plants for a few years. During this time, the roots of the tree and plants help sustain the surrounding environment as the body decomposes. Circle of life and such.

However, I have chosen cremation and inurnment at an incredibly quiet and attractive cemetery ( http://www.memorialutah.com/locations/holladay/ ) at the foot of the Wasatch mountain range in the neighborhood of my childhood. The cemetery is also home to megasavant Kim Peek and his father, Fran.


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23 Dec 2017, 11:37 am

A viking funeral would be an interesting way to have my body disposed of. Or just torch my body in a bonfire and have people gathered around roasting marshmallows.


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23 Dec 2017, 11:46 am

I've had kitties all my adult life, and they've saved my life, literally, more than once. When they pass on, I've had them cremated - so I have some beautiful carved wooden boxes with kitty names and pictures on them. When *I* go, I'm going to have all those little boxes cremated again, along with me, and we're going off into the world on wind and water - I want us to be scattered, together again for the last time.


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24 Dec 2017, 3:08 pm

my body is going to science, though I am wondering if i'd rather just be deposited atop a high mountain to let the elements get at me instead.



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24 Dec 2017, 9:02 pm

My plan has always been to be cremated and scattered, hopefully somewhere beautiful. If anyone wants to do something to remember me, they should plant a tree somewhere.
Although things might change, I might consider donating my body to science, or to a school's anatomy program.
Hopefully it will be a while before anyone has to do any of that.



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25 Dec 2017, 3:02 am

I don't understand the biodegradable part being an issue. Coffins are buried 6 feet underground and if it wasn't for the above ground markers, there would be no evidence of their existence.

Grass, plants and trees still grow and animals and insects still do their thing in grave yards regardless of buried boxes. Pretty much the same as when the ground is full of large bolders that have been there for millions of years.

There's a very large cemetery in my town and if it wasn't maintained by grounds keepers, it would fairly quickly get taken over and swallowed up by nature.



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25 Dec 2017, 3:29 am

EzraS wrote:
I don't understand the biodegradable part being an issue. Coffins are buried 6 feet underground and if it wasn't for the above ground markers, there would be no evidence of their existence.
Coffins are above ground in Louisiana because alot of the state is at or bellow sea level.


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25 Dec 2017, 7:03 am

EzraS wrote:
I don't understand the biodegradable part being an issue. Coffins are buried 6 feet underground and if it wasn't for the above ground markers, there would be no evidence of their existence.

Grass, plants and trees still grow and animals and insects still do their thing in grave yards regardless of buried boxes. Pretty much the same as when the ground is full of large bolders that have been there for millions of years.

There's a very large cemetery in my town and if it wasn't maintained by grounds keepers, it would fairly quickly get taken over and swallowed up by nature.

Until recently, burials could happen all "higgledy-piggledy" depending on random and contradictory laws, or no laws at all (in many jurisdictions, a family could simply bury a member on family land). In the last 40 or 50 years, most states have laws requiring burials to include burial vaults (basically, huge Tupperware containers which prevent leakage into local water supplies). The vaults are also sturdy enough to prevent collapse. So, "green burials" are required to be located away from aquifers.

So now, traditional burials are fairly sterile. Yes, such burials leave nothing to attract animals and insects. Cremations are about 25 percent of all end-of-life solutions, and avoid animals and insects, too. Green burials are gaining in popularity. Ossuaries seem pretty "green," too, as they invite insects to aide in the decomposition process for the first year after death. In my own state, laws allow for a unique kind of "green burial" which is favored by western cowboy enthusiasts (shroud or pine box, nothing fancy; dig a ditch in allowed locations, play some guitar-and-banjo music, and wave goodbye.


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25 Dec 2017, 8:04 am

I still don't see any harm caused by a non-biodegadable coffin or vault buried 6 feet / 2 meters underground.