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Jamesy
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19 Dec 2018, 11:10 am

In this YouTube clip here https://youtu.be/Av-DqY1wLN8

The guy in the karate outfit (the bears trainer) does a good job in getting the bear in a headlock/subduing it.

Do you think judging by the YouTube video we tend to overestimate how strong bears are? I have been told bears can rip your head off but clearly not judging by the video.



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19 Dec 2018, 11:13 am

I believe the bear was trained to do this.

Do we "underestimate" the strength of lions when we train them to go through hoops?



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19 Dec 2018, 11:16 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I believe the bear was trained to do this.

Do we "underestimate" the strength of lions when we train them to go through hoops?




Trained too do what?



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19 Dec 2018, 11:54 am

Trained to allow the people to put (the bear) in a chokehold.



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19 Dec 2018, 12:54 pm

bears can rip you to shreds, period


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19 Dec 2018, 12:55 pm

That’s why some training must have been done....



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19 Dec 2018, 1:58 pm

Taradine wrote:
bears can rip you to shreds, period




Well the bear in the video I showed certainly didn’t.



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19 Dec 2018, 2:19 pm

And why do you think that is, Jamesy?



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19 Dec 2018, 2:20 pm

I think you're confusing "can" with "will". Which is where kort's statement comes into play.

e; A number of the animals used in circuses have the potential to seriously injure or even kill people, but they don't, because a). they've grown up around people and are likely far removed from nature, and b). they've grown up trained to do the things that they do in much the same way as dogs and cats are.


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19 Dec 2018, 4:08 pm

I'm not going to put myself in a position to find out, but I imagine bears are very strong.
I would rather overestimate an animals strength and pay them healthy respect than underestimate it and possibly have my head ripped off.


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19 Dec 2018, 4:28 pm

1. It's not a very large bear.

2. The bear is a circus bear. Not tame, mind, but probably a bit less ferocious than a fully wild bear would be. Plus, The trainer has the bear on a leash (which makes putting it in a headlock easier), and it's probably reacting like a disobedient dog: it's reacting to being reprimanded, not to being overpowered.

3. MUZZLED. The bears not trying to punch them to death, it's holding them down and trying to bite them to death.


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19 Dec 2018, 4:34 pm

Well...I'm pretty sure I'd rather overestimate a bear's strength than be cocky and challenge one to a wrestling match.


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19 Dec 2018, 4:49 pm

By all means then, you should take up bear wrestling.

Better than tennis and golf put together.

Best thing for your health ever! :D

YOU try it first though.

And report back to me about your health benefits.



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19 Dec 2018, 5:11 pm

If I manage to reinsert my intestines back into my abdomen, I'll definitely come back with a full report on the experience.


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19 Dec 2018, 5:45 pm

There was a news story recently of a bear who dragged a woman the length of a football field by her leg until her barking dog scared the bear away. The woman's leg was crushed & had other issues. I sure as hell wouldn't want to take my chances with a bear unless I had a good gun.


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19 Dec 2018, 6:01 pm

But on the other hand...bears can probably be quite graceful!

https://youtu.be/_OCYIK95KXE?list=RD_OCYIK95KXE





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