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Tokatekika
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30 Sep 2019, 10:31 am

Does anyone else have phobias along with their anxiety?

I used to have Really bad phobia of dying but got cut for it, but now I have Phobia of going to the toilet in other peoples houses and it makes me not visit friends and family :?

Does anyone else struggle with something like this? I'm going to cbt again soon but it is driving me mad not to mention it is embarrassing to tell people :oops:


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30 Sep 2019, 10:42 am

Many Aspies develop phobias. Sometimes these phobias can grow and intensify and turn into Agoraphobia.

Agoraphobia is a type of anxiety disorder in which an individual fears and avoids places or situations that might cause them to panic and feel trapped, helpless or embarrassed. They fear an actual or anticipated situation. These situations can include open spaces, public transit, shopping centers, being in a crowd, or simply being outside their home. The anxiety is caused by fear that there's no easy way to escape or get help if the anxiety intensifies. Most people who have agoraphobia develop it after having one or more panic attacks, causing them to worry about having another attack and avoid the places where it may happen again. People with agoraphobia often have a hard time feeling safe in any public place, especially where crowds gather. They may feel that they need a companion, such as a relative or friend, to go with them to public places. The fear can be so overwhelming that they may feel unable to even leave their home.



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30 Sep 2019, 10:51 am

jimmy m wrote:
Many Aspies develop phobias. Sometimes these phobias can grow and intensify and turn into Agoraphobia.

Agoraphobia is a type of anxiety disorder in which an individual fears and avoids places or situations that might cause them to panic and feel trapped, helpless or embarrassed. They fear an actual or anticipated situation. These situations can include open spaces, public transit, shopping centers, being in a crowd, or simply being outside their home. The anxiety is caused by fear that there's no easy way to escape or get help if the anxiety intensifies. Most people who have agoraphobia develop it after having one or more panic attacks, causing them to worry about having another attack and avoid the places where it may happen again. People with agoraphobia often have a hard time feeling safe in any public place, especially where crowds gather. They may feel that they need a companion, such as a relative or friend, to go with them to public places. The fear can be so overwhelming that they may feel unable to even leave their home.


I've definitely had bad agoraphobia before too but... Now I'm able to go out for a bit but am always worrying about needing the toilet, like you said, on public transport where there's no toilet, or at a friend's house or walking in town and needing to go and not making it...

Especially recognise I get more anxious when I feel trapped or there's no easy escape too 8O just don't know what to do about it anymore it's really affecting my social life and that is already difficult enough :oops:


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30 Sep 2019, 10:56 am

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30 Sep 2019, 11:23 am

For years I've had really bad emetophobia, which is the fear of vomiting. When I was a young adult it was so bad that I wondered if I was going to have this fear for the rest of my life and I didn't think I could go on living if I did.

It's not as severe now, but I'm still anxious and uneasy when I'm around people who are sick and possibly contagious, and I refuse to fly or ride a boat, and I avoid alcohol, although getting sick from alcohol isn't the only reason I avoid it.



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30 Sep 2019, 11:25 am

Tokatekika wrote:
I've definitely had bad agoraphobia before too but... Now I'm able to go out for a bit but am always worrying about needing the toilet, like you said, on public transport where there's no toilet, or at a friend's house or walking in town and needing to go and not making it...


As we get older, we begin to deal with problems like diarrhea, constipation, urinary tract infections, and bladder control problems. These are real life problems. Some of these problems are due to disease, age and medication side effects. Sometimes if you can pin down the cause, you can correct the situation or bring it under control.

For example if you have a bladder control problem and want to go somewhere, you might restrict the intake of liquids prior to leaving - no coffee, no tea, no cokes. This will give you more control. Another approach used by the elderly is the use of Incontinence Briefs (or adult disposable diapers) when you are out in public.

Now on the other hand, if it is a fear of using a public restroom or a friends or relatives restroom because of germs on the toilet seat, then that is a phobia.



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30 Sep 2019, 11:36 am

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For years I've had really bad emetophobia, which is the fear of vomiting. When I was a young adult it was so bad that I wondered if I was going to have this fear for the rest of my life and I didn't think I could go on living if I did.

It's not as severe now, but I'm still anxious and uneasy when I'm around people who are sick and possibly contagious, and I refuse to fly or ride a boat, and I avoid alcohol, although getting sick from alcohol isn't the only reason I avoid it.


Aww im sorry to hear this hun but glad you have gotten over it a little bit, I too avoid alcohol as it generally just makes me feel more anxious


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30 Sep 2019, 11:38 am

jimmy m wrote:
Tokatekika wrote:
I've definitely had bad agoraphobia before too but... Now I'm able to go out for a bit but am always worrying about needing the toilet, like you said, on public transport where there's no toilet, or at a friend's house or walking in town and needing to go and not making it...


As we get older, we begin to deal with problems like diarrhea, constipation, urinary tract infections, and bladder control problems. These are real life problems. Some of these problems are due to disease, age and medication side effects. Sometimes if you can pin down the cause, you can correct the situation or bring it under control.

For example if you have a bladder control problem and want to go somewhere, you might restrict the intake of liquids prior to leaving - no coffee, no tea, no cokes. This will give you more control. Another approach used by the elderly is the use of Incontinence Briefs (or adult disposable diapers) when you are out in public.

Now on the other hand, if it is a fear of using a public restroom or a friends or relatives restroom because of germs on the toilet seat, then that is a phobia.


Its more the fear of having an accident or people hearing me on the loo if that makes sense... I had a bad tummy on holiday once and had a panic attack and ever since I've been scared of suddenly getting a bad tummy... But the fear of It happening and the anxiety itself gives me a bad tummy like a vicious cycle :oops:


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30 Sep 2019, 11:46 am

I'm afraid of bees and wasps. Used to be really afraid of needles too, but that's more or less under control now.



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30 Sep 2019, 11:55 am

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I'm afraid of bees and wasps. Used to be really afraid of needles too, but that's more or less under control now.


Don't mind needles too much, but blood tests I don't like


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30 Sep 2019, 12:27 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
For years I've had really bad emetophobia, which is the fear of vomiting. When I was a young adult it was so bad that I wondered if I was going to have this fear for the rest of my life and I didn't think I could go on living if I did.

It's not as severe now, but I'm still anxious and uneasy when I'm around people who are sick and possibly contagious, and I refuse to fly or ride a boat, and I avoid alcohol, although getting sick from alcohol isn't the only reason I avoid it.



I pass out if I go sick. My Mum does as well. We habe saved each others lives a few times as we need to clear airwaves etc.
I am in such a panic just before. It maybe a total shutdown rather then passing out. I don't know. I have never worked it out... But I am in total panic.
And when my Dad was alive, every year he would have a flu jab and each time we would get sickness. And since them we would have visitors who stay here a few hours and then say "I had a flu jab earlier today" and almost guaranteed we would habe a couple of weeks of aweful life threatening sickness. Yet people who had the jab refuse to believe us.


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30 Sep 2019, 1:55 pm

Tokatekika wrote - Its more the fear of having an accident or people hearing me on the loo if that makes sense... I had a bad tummy on holiday once and had a panic attack and ever since I've been scared of suddenly getting a bad tummy... But the fear of It happening and the anxiety itself gives me a bad tummy like a vicious cycle :oops:

According to the Internet:

Ever wonder why you get “butterflies” in your stomach before doing something stressful? Or why you feel like your stomach is “tied in knots” after an argument? Ever had a meeting with a toilet that went longer than expected and it wasn’t caused by anything you ate? Stomach problems are one of the most common symptoms of stress and anxiety.

Researchers have identified a powerful connection between the gut and the brain. Like the brain, the gut is full of nerves. It contains the largest area of nerves outside the brain with the digestive tract and the brain sharing many of the same nerve connections.

Whether it’s a single nerve-wracking event or chronic worry and stress over time, stress can exact a physical toll on your digestive system. When you are anxious, some of the hormones and chemicals released by your body enter your digestive tract, where they interfere with digestion. They have a negative effect on your gut flora (microorganisms that live in the digestive tract and aid digestion) and decrease antibody production. The resulting chemical imbalance can cause a number of gastrointestinal conditions.

Common stress-related gut symptoms and conditions include:

* indigestion
* stomach cramps
* diarrhea
* constipation
* loss of appetite
* unnatural hunger
* nausea
* Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS)
* and peptic ulcers

Once you suffer with one of these conditions, the condition itself can become a source of anxiety and greatly impact your quality of life. I have had many patients who experience diarrhea for example, who develop a fear having accidents in their pants which makes them afraid to leave their home or go certain places. If you experience stomach cramps or indigestion, you might become fearful of these symptoms causing you to limit where and what you eat which could impact your social life.


Source: How to Calm an Anxious Stomach: The Brain-Gut Connection

The article then goes onto describing 6 tips for reducing stress and anxiety.

I will recommend adding one more to the list. The next time you go in for a medical check-up, have yourself tested for
Helicobacter pylori infection. This is a fairly common bacterial infection and can cause these gut symptoms. About two-thirds of the world’s population has it in their bodies.

Source: What Is H. pylori?

I believe I read that the breath test is the most accurate method of assessing this condition.



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30 Sep 2019, 2:24 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
For years I've had really bad emetophobia, which is the fear of vomiting. When I was a young adult it was so bad that I wondered if I was going to have this fear for the rest of my life and I didn't think I could go on living if I did.

It's not as severe now, but I'm still anxious and uneasy when I'm around people who are sick and possibly contagious, and I refuse to fly or ride a boat, and I avoid alcohol, although getting sick from alcohol isn't the only reason I avoid it.


I have something similar, only it's diarrhea that I'm afraid of more than vomiting. I'm super paranoid about food safety and such because I'm so afraid of getting a GI illness.

I also have a phobia of parasites, particularly internal ones. I'm not pleased to find a tick on me after a walk in the woods or something, but it doesn't bother me quite the same way as even the thought of parasitic worms, for example.


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30 Sep 2019, 2:47 pm

Thank you for taking the time to look into that, definitely sounds like Me

Not heard of the gut bacteria thing but I'll definitely look into it thank you


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dragonsanddemons wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
For years I've had really bad emetophobia, which is the fear of vomiting. When I was a young adult it was so bad that I wondered if I was going to have this fear for the rest of my life and I didn't think I could go on living if I did.

It's not as severe now, but I'm still anxious and uneasy when I'm around people who are sick and possibly contagious, and I refuse to fly or ride a boat, and I avoid alcohol, although getting sick from alcohol isn't the only reason I avoid it.


I have something similar, only it's diarrhea that I'm afraid of more than vomiting. I'm super paranoid about food safety and such because I'm so afraid of getting a GI illness.

I also have a phobia of parasites, particularly internal ones. I'm not pleased to find a tick on me after a walk in the woods or something, but it doesn't bother me quite the same way as even the thought of parasitic worms, for example.


Pretty much the same as me but I'm more scared if people hearing me have it :o


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