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26 Oct 2019, 8:17 am

Have you ever found any buried treasure?


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26 Oct 2019, 9:21 am

Has ANY one in human history ever actually found "buried treasure"?

I don't mean archeologists finding gold in ancient tombs, or layers of ancient cities.

I mean pirate treasure deliberately buried by pirates in the days of the Spanish Main.

I mean actually finding a strongbox buried by pirates containing treasure?

SUNKEN treasure: galleons carrying gold and gems that sank in hurricanes while traversing the sea get discovered by modern under sea salvagers in real life every few years.

But I cant remember ever hearing about someone actually finding "buried" pirate treasure on a shore anywhere.

There is something called "the money hole" on an island off of Canada. A mysterious thing that folks have been digging to get to the bottom of (both literally and figuratively) for decades that started out looking like a story book pirate type buried treasure thing come to life, but has turned out to far weirder than anything any pirate could have pulled off.



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26 Oct 2019, 9:57 am

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There is something called "the money hole" on an island off of Canada. A mysterious thing that folks have been digging to get to the bottom of (both literally and figuratively) for decades that started out looking like a story book pirate type buried treasure thing come to life, but has turned out to far weirder than anything any pirate could have pulled off.


It sounds like you are referring to "the Money Pit". There is a television series called The Curse of Oak Island that describes their efforts. This program is now in its seventh season.


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26 Oct 2019, 10:32 am

Here in the UK, the term "Bank" origionally came from a literal bank (Hedgrow) where people used to hide their hard earned coins in leather pouches to keep them safe.
One of our neighbours said that when he was a little boy, he was with his friend and they found a leather pouch filled with old silver coins. They were young back then, and they sat on the local river bridge and enjoyed themselves skimming the coins in the water until they ran out of coins.


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26 Oct 2019, 10:46 am

Jjimmy:

Yeah its called "the money pit" even though far more money has gone IN to it than has come out of it. I read of it long ago, and recently they've started that reality TV show about folks putting even more time and money into digging it. I caught an episode recently. Interesting show that competes with "Finding Bigfoot", and like that.

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I suppose that finding caches of coins might be a common thing in the Old World, like in England. I guess that's what folks did back in the days before they had savings and loans. Just bury their savings in the back yard, or along a river bank. The US didn't have much history prior to the age of progress and of modern banking. So that is not a very common a thing to stumble upon here. I feel sorry for those boys you knew. If they had dividied up those centuries old silver coins and saved them until adulthood they probably could have sold them for big modern money. Instead they......just used them up by...skimming them across the water?????? I am in vicarious emotional pain just hearing that story! :lol:



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26 Oct 2019, 11:12 am

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Jjimmy:

Yeah its called "the money pit" even though far more money has gone IN to it than has come out of it. I read of it long ago, and recently they've started that reality TV show about folks putting even more time and money into digging it. I caught an episode recently. Interesting show that competes with "Finding Bigfoot", and like that.

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I suppose that finding caches of coins might be a common thing in the Old World, like in England. I guess that's what folks did back in the days before they had savings and loans. Just bury their savings in the back yard, or along a river bank. The US didn't have much history prior to the age of progress and of modern banking. So that is not a very common a thing to stumble upon here. I feel sorry for those boys you knew. If they had dividied up those centuries old silver coins and saved them until adulthood they probably could have sold them for big modern money. Instead they......just used them up by...skimming them across the water?????? I am in vicarious emotional pain just hearing that story! :lol:

The gentleman is about 20 years older then I am. He lives as a hermit these days. He has had a real hard time and many years ago he withdrew from life.


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26 Oct 2019, 11:18 am

The coins are probably still down there buried in the mud. Just waiting for someone to find them and bring them to the light of day. Just don't drown yourself in the process.


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26 Oct 2019, 11:44 am

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The coins are probably still down there buried in the mud. Just waiting for someone to find them and bring them to the light of day. Just don't drown yourself in the process.

Yes. But even though they are heavy coins, it is a smaller but faster flowing river, so the likely hood of them scattering further downstream is more then possible. I am not sure which bridge it was as it could be one of two possibe bridges, as I thought he said a certain bridge, but my Mum thought it was a bridge a bit further along the same river.

Also, a loca beach has treasure. Ships would leave here loaded with coal and other things on journeys right across the world. On the return trip ballast in the form of various stones would be needed. All the balast was dumped on a local beach and some ballast from certain areas contains gold. To prevent people from looking, the local council piled sand on top of the multi coloured stones, but now the tide has washed most of the sand away again... So one may just be lucky!


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26 Oct 2019, 5:05 pm

Mountain Goat wrote:
Here in the UK, the term "Bank" origionally came from a literal bank (Hedgrow) where people used to hide their hard earned coins in leather pouches to keep them safe.

No idea who told you that, but they were completely wrong, I'm afraid. For a long time money-lending ("usury") was outlawed in the Christian parts of the world (because Jesus kicked the money-lenders out of the temple etc.) When Europeans started getting into banking again, it was in what we'd now call Italy, where the bench or counter that they traded from was called a "banco". We then borrowed that word, but got it mixed up with the one for river banks etc.

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I suppose that finding caches of coins might be a common thing in the Old World, like in England

Very much so all over Europe. Not just coins, either - there have been lots of hoards found of other precious metal objects dating to before the time when there were minted currencies. Some are almost certainly people's riches hidden to prevent them from being stolen by thieves or raiding parties. Others are more likely votive offerings - riches given in place of sacrifices to the pagan gods at sacred places, very often lakes or bogs (maybe a source of the legend of King Arthur's sword Excalibur being thrown to the Lady in the Lake when he died).


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