An autistic teenager was murdered inside a church.

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02 Nov 2019, 10:13 am

The victim was autistic and was brutally murdered with knife stabs last Sunday (27), as soon as the cult ended. The crime happened in Tocantins, Brazil. The case was stifled by the media...



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02 Nov 2019, 1:31 pm

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Autistic 16-year-old stabbed to death in evangelical church (VIDEO)
By Maria De Fátima

They were recorded by security cameras they had in the church, the exact moment a 16-year-old was killed inside an evangelical church. The crime happened in the city of Palmas in Tocantins.

The victim was autistic and was brutally murdered with knife stabs last Sunday (27) as soon as the service ended.

Pictures show the exact moment the teenager enters the church shortly after 7:30 pm. The young man has been identified as Matthew, he goes towards the pastor, near the altar, and says that someone was behind him wanting to kill him, just as the victim is talking to the Pastor, the killer enters the church and approaches From the young man, he takes a knife from his waist and begins to stab the young man in front of the desperate pastor.

The teenager is injured, but can still run from the scene, but already stabbed and without strength, does not notice the glass door that has the church, slams the door and even falls on the sidewalk.

The killer manages to reach the young man and keeps stabbing the young man leaving the knife stuck in the victim's neck. Then the man walks away from the crime scene by walking. So far there is no information on the motivation of the murder. The murder suspect has not yet been found by police.


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The article is not clear on if the victim was murdered because he was autistic, if the murder was gang-related, or if the murderer was just another schizo with a knife. And just because the global media did not pick up on the story does NOT mean that the story was “stifled”. It could mean that most media outlets just consider it “business as usual” for Brazil


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02 Nov 2019, 2:09 pm

This has already been removed once by a moderator. Footage of a fatal stabbing.



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02 Nov 2019, 4:41 pm

God has a special place for that perpetrator. "You murdered somebody that I gave life to, and in a church? You're going to Hell!"


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02 Nov 2019, 5:08 pm

Poop boy. Why the pastor didnt do anything?



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02 Nov 2019, 5:14 pm

The pastor may have been physically infirm & unable to help, or it may have happened quickly--I haven't watched the video & don't want to necessarily.

Have to say I agree with CockneyRebel on this one.

Requiescat in pace.


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02 Nov 2019, 11:23 pm

The video link was removed as it goes against the rules to post material that can upset members.

There seems no limit to the shocking things some people are capable of, and the fact that this occurred in what is supposed to be a "sanctuary" - namely a church building where one should feel safe - makes it so much worse.


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03 Nov 2019, 11:42 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
God has a special place for that perpetrator. "You murdered somebody that I gave life to, and in a church? You're going to Hell!"


If god existed, he wouldn't have let the kid be murdered in the first place, even if they weren't in a church. :x



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03 Nov 2019, 12:16 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
God has a special place for that perpetrator. "You murdered somebody that I gave life to, and in a church? You're going to Hell!"
If god existed, he wouldn't have let the kid be murdered in the first place, even if they weren't in a church.
Wouldn’t He? Do you know the mind of God?


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03 Nov 2019, 12:36 pm

None of us do.

I read somewhere that in the old days a church was a sanctuary where one was supposedly safe from would-be killers.


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03 Nov 2019, 4:44 pm

That was the custom, but it didn't work for King Wencelaus whose brother Boleslaus violated sanctuary and stabbed him in church too.


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04 Nov 2019, 11:31 am

Fnord wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
God has a special place for that perpetrator. "You murdered somebody that I gave life to, and in a church? You're going to Hell!"
If god existed, he wouldn't have let the kid be murdered in the first place, even if they weren't in a church.
Wouldn’t He? Do you know the mind of God?


According to Christianity, god is supposed to be all-loving, all-good, and all-powerful. The fact that this horrific incident actually proves he is none is none of those things. Therefore, he does not exist.



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04 Nov 2019, 11:36 am

lostonearth35 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
God has a special place for that perpetrator. "You murdered somebody that I gave life to, and in a church? You're going to Hell!"
If god existed, he wouldn't have let the kid be murdered in the first place, even if they weren't in a church.
Wouldn’t He? Do you know the mind of God?
According to Christianity, god is supposed to be all-loving, all-good, and all-powerful. The fact that this horrific incident actually proves he is none is none of those things. Therefore, he does not exist.
God did not cause this to happen -- people did. People cause all kinds of horrific things to happen to each other.  But if you want to judge God by your standards, then He will eventually judge you by those standards, too.


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04 Nov 2019, 11:39 am

Hi, LoE, Christianity also states that the devil came along and f*cked everything up. Thus making people do atrocious things like this. In other words the killer listened to the "dark side" and used his free will to murder someone.

Jus' saying...

People make bad choices.


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04 Nov 2019, 12:17 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
God has a special place for that perpetrator. "You murdered somebody that I gave life to, and in a church? You're going to Hell!"


If god existed, he wouldn't have let the kid be murdered in the first place, even if they weren't in a church. :x


Different story but I am sure ‘ol Marion (his real name) would express a similar sentiment:

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressi ... 2SzyOXB6i4



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05 Nov 2019, 2:19 am

envirozentinel wrote:
Hi, LoE, Christianity also states that the devil came along and f*cked everything up. Thus making people do atrocious things like this. In other words the killer listened to the "dark side" and used his free will to murder someone.

Jus' saying...

People make bad choices.


If you set up a play-pen for a group of kids, leave all manner of knives in there, and allow some shady guy on the outside of the pen to encourage the kids to maim each other, whose fault is it when somebody gets hurt? The kids, for having chosen to use the weapons you supplied to fight each other? The creepy guy that encouraged them, yet allowed him to remain? Or you, the one who set things up in a way that allowed the kids to be influenced by a psycho and have access to knives?

We can choose to attack each other, yes. But we can't choose the laws of physics. I can't choose to survive having my brain scooped out and set on fire any more than I can choose to lift ten-billion tonnes with my bare hands. We have physical limitations placed on us already, yet nothing stopping us from brutally murdering one another. The blame for the physical realities that allow us to stick knives into each others' eyeballs falls squarely on the Creator, be that a God or some force of nature.

Now I can't speak for the Christian God, but if I was almighty and some a**hole fallen angel decided to try and f**k everything up, I'd give him a sound spanking and lock him away somewhere where he can't influence humanity.