"But I've made up my mind I'm keeping my baby."

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21 Dec 2019, 4:50 pm

No abortion for Madonna.

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21 Dec 2019, 4:52 pm

Pro-life people like that line in the song.

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22 Dec 2019, 2:09 am

I love that song.

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22 Dec 2019, 2:28 am

There is nothing anti choice in these words.

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22 Dec 2019, 11:58 am

magz wrote:

There is nothing anti choice in these words.

Yes, but prolife people say she is making the right decision.

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22 Dec 2019, 12:15 pm

NewTime wrote:

magz wrote:

There is nothing anti choice in these words.

Yes, but prolife people say she is making the right decision.

Well she's Roman Catholic so it shouldn't be any surprise. In fact, I believe her actual father appeared in the video and I would expect him to share that point of view.

BTW I don't think you have to be religious to be pro-life. There are perfectly rational/secular arguments in favor. I think the real issue is that religious people have co-opted it, so that if you see a pro-life bumper sticker you automatically react to it being a right-wing message. So it disgusts me that people who seem to care so much about unborn fetuses don't give a toss about toddlers dying in camps on the US border due to neglect by the authorities that put them in those camps.

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22 Dec 2019, 12:24 pm

NewTime wrote:

magz wrote:

There is nothing anti choice in these words.

Yes, but prolife people say she is making the right decision.

Sometimes life and choice do not exclude each other.
Myself, I prefer such situations.

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22 Dec 2019, 12:53 pm

I wish you well and may your child be full of wonder and joy.

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23 Dec 2019, 4:05 am

MaxE wrote:

BTW I don't think you have to be religious to be pro-life. There are perfectly rational/secular arguments in favor. I think the real issue is that religious people have co-opted it, so that if you see a pro-life bumper sticker you automatically react to it being a right-wing message. So it disgusts me that people who seem to care so much about unborn fetuses don't give a toss about toddlers dying in camps on the US border due to neglect by the authorities that put them in those camps.

I completely agree.

I like the original of this song as well as Kelly Osbourne's cover of this & yes she is Ozzy's daughter :arrow:

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23 Dec 2019, 7:54 am

"The line "I've made up my mind, I'm keeping my baby," caused anti-abortion groups to praise Madonna and abortion-rights groups to criticize her. Madonna refused to take a stance on the issue"

https://www.songfacts.com/facts/madonna ... ont-preach

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23 Dec 2019, 12:53 pm

EzraS wrote:

It seems rather absurd that abortion-rights group would criticize Madonna for a song that is simply about a young woman who exercises her freedom of choice. There's is nothing anti-abortion in the lyrics.

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23 Dec 2019, 1:36 pm

VegetableMan wrote:

EzraS wrote:

Before I read this thread I never knew those lyrics caused any controversy about abortion. Now that I've read the tread I guess I'm not surprised considering how extreme both groups are over the issue but I really think both groups are looking for messages/meaning in the song that Madonna never intended to put there.

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23 Dec 2019, 3:20 pm

Actually, the teen-aged girl in the song could have been being pressured to give her baby up for adoption.

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23 Dec 2019, 3:21 pm

Madonna is no one I would take any advice from.

Regarding songs with this title, Phil Harris did a better version in 1946 with "Poppa Don't Preach to Me" from the talking-picture reboot of The Perils of Pauline.

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23 Dec 2019, 4:49 pm

There are people who don't think the song is referring to a pregnancy at all, but that the "baby" she is referring to is a disapproved boyfriend. The line "He says that he's going to marry me and we can raise a little family." can lead people to interpret it like this.

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23 Dec 2019, 5:38 pm

NewTime wrote:

magz wrote:

There is nothing anti choice in these words.

Yes, but prolife people say she is making the right decision.

Well of course they do, they don't think abortion is ever the right decision. Which is good and fine, the problem is the prolife people who try to make the choice for others via pushing for religious legislation.

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