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21 Mar 2020, 8:29 pm

At the bar I was talking to this Eastern European guy who was not great as speaking English.
He took out his video phone and started recording the bar area (so he could show what the bar looked like to his wife and kids at home).

A few mins later these 2 angry young women came up to us and started started saying to the Eastern European man “excuse me have you been recording us”? The guy could not understand what they were saying so I had to translate it to him. One of the girls then walked over to the bouncer and complained about the man. Consequently he was asked to leave the bar the doormen.

Do you think overall he was treated very unfairly in all of this? Besides he just trying to record the bar scenery.


I live in England by the way



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21 Mar 2020, 8:37 pm

Seems about right for England. Forget about it and move on.


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21 Mar 2020, 8:39 pm

To me, it sounds like miscommunication/misunderstanding led to an overreaction. If the two women thought the guy was videoing just them, that's probably what they told the bartender he was doing, and so the bartender asked him to leave because of that. But what he was actually doing, videoing the bar in general, seems perfectly reasonable and I don't think he should have been asked to leave for that.


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21 Mar 2020, 8:49 pm

dragonsanddemons wrote:
To me, it sounds like miscommunication/misunderstanding led to an overreaction. If the two women thought the guy was videoing just them, that's probably what they told the bartender he was doing, and so the bartender asked him to leave because of that. But what he was actually doing, videoing the bar in general, seems perfectly reasonable and I don't think he should have been asked to leave for that.




Yeah part of the problem was he was foreign and couldn’t communicate very well


Also bars and clubs are notorious for being very sexist towards men



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21 Mar 2020, 8:52 pm

Uh-oh ... I sense a string of "Women have it much better than men" posts coming in.


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21 Mar 2020, 8:58 pm

Fnord wrote:
Uh-oh ... I sense a string of "Women have it much better than men" posts coming in.



Okay I was just saying the doormen were being a bit unfair towards him thats all.



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21 Mar 2020, 9:02 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Uh-oh ... I sense a string of "Women have it much better than men" posts coming in.
Okay just saying the doormen a bit unfair towards him that's all.
The word of two local women means one helluva lot more than the word of one foreign man to a bouncer.  Nothing unfair about that.  Even I know better than to recording strangers in a bar.


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21 Mar 2020, 9:05 pm

Fnord wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Uh-oh ... I sense a string of "Women have it much better than men" posts coming in.
Okay just saying the doormen a bit unfair towards him that's all.
The word of two local women means one helluva lot more than the word of one foreign man to a bouncer.  Nothing unfair about that.  Even I know better than to recording strangers in a bar.



I think the guy was just being a bit naive and thought it would be nice to take some recordings of the bar area. Besides he just wanted to show what the place looked like to his family at home.



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21 Mar 2020, 9:09 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Uh-oh ... I sense a string of "Women have it much better than men" posts coming in.
Okay just saying the doormen a bit unfair towards him that's all.
The word of two local women means one helluva lot more than the word of one foreign man to a bouncer.  Nothing unfair about that.  Even I know better than to record strangers in a bar.
I think the guy was just being a bit naive and thought it would be nice to take some recordings of the bar area. Besides he just wanted to show what the place looked like to his family at home.
Irrelevant.  The bar owner (through his proxy, the bouncer) is well within his or her rights to eject anyone who tries to make a video recording of the interior of the bar without the express written permission of the bar owner and/or everyone present.  Sorry, kid.  That's just how it is.[/color]


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21 Mar 2020, 9:28 pm

Usually its not a good idea to just start filming in a public place.

If there is some kind of incident and you are collecting video evidence I don't see anything wrong with that. But just filming randomly in public isn't appropriate since people just minding their own business have every right not to be filmed.

He could have taken a quick picture, also why does he need to show his kids the inside of a dingy bar? Also maybe you should find some other activities aside from going to the bar.


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31 Mar 2020, 12:49 pm

Perhaps the bar had an official or unofficial policy against recording in order to protect their customers. The bus system where I'm at has a policy that they'll confiscate your device if you record a vid or take a pic so it wouldn't surprise me for businesses to frown on that sort of thing as well.


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