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28 Mar 2020, 1:05 pm

OK, so if everyone has strictly got to stay 2 metres apart in every shop, do the vulnerable still need to self-isolate?
I mean, every person is at the same risk as each other of catching the virus, but if they're taking these drastic measures to avoid anyone contracting it or passing it on, then surely it's safe for the vulnerable to go out (for essential reasons) too?


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28 Mar 2020, 1:20 pm

Joe90 wrote:
OK, so if everyone has strictly got to stay 2 metres apart in every shop, do the vulnerable still need to self-isolate?
I mean, every person is at the same risk as each other of catching the virus, but if they're taking these drastic measures to avoid anyone contracting it or passing it on, then surely it's safe for the vulnerable to go out (for essential reasons) too?


2 metres prolly is mimimum safe distance for normal people. vulnerable people ,,idk if they should be going out ?


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28 Mar 2020, 8:01 pm

I think it is safe for those at risk as well if the need to go to the store etc.

Probably those who the most absolutely at risk are so old they are in nursing homes or in such poor health they are housebound or in care homes.



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28 Mar 2020, 10:06 pm

It's safe. Of course. You can trust your common sense. My son's nurse said to me that wearing a mask and gloves is best simply because we were sick recently and my kids have a weak immune system.


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28 Mar 2020, 11:26 pm

The distance is a guide line to serve to lower the chance of spread (not totally eliminate it). And does not apply to all circumstances, since it most likely take in too consideration average/median/ect. cases.



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29 Mar 2020, 5:51 pm

If someone sneezes the droplets can linger in the air for up to 3 hours so there is still a risk. Physical distancing just helps reduce the risk. Every time you go out in public there is going to be a risk and everyone need to play their part in reducing the risk by physical distancing.



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29 Mar 2020, 6:30 pm

Noca wrote:
If someone sneezes the droplets can linger in the air for up to 3 hours so there is still a risk. Physical distancing just helps reduce the risk. Every time you go out in public there is going to be a risk and everyone need to play their part in reducing the risk by physical distancing.


I know that.
But what difference would it make if a non-vulnerable person went out and got sneezed near, and if a vulnerable person went out and got sneezed near? Both parties have the same chance of catching it, and if a non-vulnerable person caught it then they might pass it on to a vulnerable person they live with, unless they spend 14 days keeping their distance from each other in the house, which isn't always possible if you live in a small apartment.

Is that explained clearer?


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29 Mar 2020, 6:36 pm

The idea is that even in a small apartment, people with a compromised family member should stay 2 m apart and sterilise everything without touching any shared materials. Yes it's difficult but it's still safer than putting the compromised person in a situation where countless others have touched items or spread their germs. Family members will do what's needed to protect those they love in their homes, but random strangers in society won't be so careful.


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29 Mar 2020, 7:19 pm

Yes, you can't trust strangers to stay home even if they get sick and have obvious symptoms!

Especially since some cultures pressure men to deny health health issues and continue working.
All that training is hard to change.



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29 Mar 2020, 7:20 pm

BTDT wrote:
Yes, you can't trust strangers to stay home even if they get sick and have obvious symptoms!
Especially since some cultures pressure men to deny health health issues and continue working.
All that training is hard to change.


That's a good point


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29 Mar 2020, 7:29 pm

I've decided to only go out once a week, as the incubation period is normally 2 to 7 days.
This way I can avoid passing it on if I do get it. I have plenty of canned food and dried fruit to live on.