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24 May 2015, 12:15 am

Has anyone joined a high IQ society? I am curious about the goings-on of such organizations, particularly the quality of discussions and the social atmosphere. I'm considering joining this one:

http://www.mycallidus.com/

I don't have the money right now but I'll probably take the test regardless of whether or not I join or not because I enjoy such challenges.



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24 May 2015, 12:51 am

colloquy is free and online. top .5%. you send old test scores, IQ, SAT, etc. www.colloquysociety.org

conversations get lively, but personal attacks aren't allowed. topic depends on interests and time available to members. i made a good friend via colloquy. there is at least one other autistic member. recent topic was vedic astrology, not my cup of tea. a few months ago, psych meds were discussed. i contributed a lot to that one. wide variety of philosophical, religious, and political views. international. more guys than gals. i'd be happy to answer questions about it.

i used to be in mensa. the friend that bought me the membership commented that many members are underachievers. meetings were dinner monthly and the occasional game night, then there are regional and national gatherings yearly with games, lectures, lots off food and mingling. i quit when my local group was infiltrated by a very negative, disgusting person. much depends on the personalities in your local group. there is also a magazine. old test scores or test is available.



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24 May 2015, 12:58 am

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colloquy is free and online. top .5%. you send old test scores, IQ, SAT, etc. http://www.colloquysociety.org

Ah! I missed the WAIS cut-off score by three points.

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i'd be happy to answer questions about it.

What is the social interaction like? Is it like a typical Internet forum (full of NTs), but with better moderation? Can you compare it to the social milieu of WP?



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24 May 2015, 2:30 pm

there is no moderation in mensa. yes, lots of NT's. also, as is typical in society in general, extroversion is valued. i do believe, however, that there is a greater tolerance for diversity.



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26 May 2015, 12:35 am

if you work in a hospital in a professional patient-care capacity [RN or above], or in a legal office or engineering concern, chances are you will be around lots of high-iq types, as well. there is something to be said for working around exceptionally bright people day-in and day-out, rather than merely attending periodic smart set meetups.



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26 May 2015, 3:25 am

starkid wrote:
Has anyone joined a high IQ society? I am curious about the goings-on of such organizations, particularly the quality of discussions and the social atmosphere. I'm considering joining this one:

http://www.mycallidus.com/

I don't have the money right now but I'll probably take the test regardless of whether or not I join or not because I enjoy such challenges.


No. I would feel uncomfortable in one of these organizations because personally IQ is irrelevant to me when it comes to socialization. I can converse and socialize with those over a wide spectrum of IQ. I feel "high IQ" societies should function not as social societies, but as support groups for those who are so gifted that they cannot be truly fulfilled in conversations with those who are not. I've met perhaps two people who fall into this category, where their minds just worked at a pace that was so beyond that of most people that others could not keep up with them. Understand that most people in Mensa and other high IQ societies don't fall into this category. They tend to be gifted, but not what we would consider genius, and also consider that many of those who's intellect rises to the level of genius, are not in high IQ societies.

I've known two former Mensa members. One had left because she said she was tired of people at her local chapter trying to out smart each other. I don't recall why the other left but one of them mentioned that movies were a common topic of discussion at their local chapter.



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26 May 2015, 8:33 pm

Chronos wrote:
I feel "high IQ" societies should function not as social societies, but as support groups for those who are so gifted that they cannot be truly fulfilled in conversations with those who are not.

Aren't those two things the same? What other sort of social group would a high iq society be if not a support group for people with high iq?



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26 May 2015, 9:44 pm

I can't imagine being part of any type of society, because in every society you have to... be social. Being around people and stuff, listening to them, having debates. Ick.

I don't even know what my IQ is, but I'm no genius. Sure, I can do self-taught drawing and crafting pretty well, but I don't play chess or speak fluently in other languages. And I'm dumb at math.

I get into these moods where I want to be in a peaceful, quiet environment where I'm not around other people, I don't want to listen to other people, and I don't want to do what they're all doing. I call these moods "being awake". :P



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26 May 2015, 9:55 pm

I could do without gainsaying and one-upmanship no matter how artfully and subtly done.



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27 May 2015, 3:47 pm

I've encountered a number of IQ societies IRL and online.

Some discussions are excellent and filled with profundities and some are sectarian or partisan.

There is a great deal of effort given to measuring and re-measuring the size of ones intellectual penis and subsequently comparing that with others. The women that I've encountered do NOT do this, it seems to be a penile only trait. Sadly, all of these group are numerically dominated by males. Expect a competitive atmosphere.

If you join, watch out for Sociopaths....if you think the stupid ones are dangerous then imagine the profoundly gifted variant.

High IQ does not have as strong of a correlation with overt success as one might expect.

There are some great people out there for you to enjoy.



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27 May 2015, 4:11 pm

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High IQ does not have as strong of a correlation with overt success as one might expect.


Why is there always someone who has to comment some variant of the "IQ doesn't mean that much" in EVERY discussion that involves IQ? I'm tired of it. It's like every other person is insecure or suspicious or something about how IQ will be interpreted and project that onto every discussion involving IQ.

I ask you, what is the relevance of the correlation (or lack thereof) between IQ and success? What does that have to do with this thread? Besides that, different people have different standards of success, so how are we to interpret this statement? IQ lacks a strong correlation with slave's idea of success?



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27 May 2015, 4:18 pm

Mensa seems to offer the most membership benefits. I have seen many, many high-IQ societies which offer nothing but acceptance as a member. That doesn't mean that I like all things Mensa. I don't. But, it appears to have the most options afforded to its members.


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27 May 2015, 4:25 pm

I quit mensa because of the snobbish elitist attitude the local members had. They used their score as a measure of superiority and when someone comes along who scored higher than then (like me), you expect that if they use IQ as a measure of superiority that you would get respect. On the contrary: You are met with jealousy. That local group was a bunch of narcissistic snobs who don't contribute to society and cannot prove their intelligence through practical means.



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27 May 2015, 4:41 pm

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I quit mensa because of the snobbish elitist attitude the local members had. They used their score as a measure of superiority and when someone comes along who scored higher than then (like me), you expect that if they use IQ as a measure of superiority that you would get respect. On the contrary: You are met with jealousy. That local group was a bunch of narcissistic snobs who don't contribute to society and cannot prove their intelligence through practical means.

I enjoy talking with others who have an IQ beyond my own (after all, just finding individuals who are in the range of my own score is difficult). I don't resent them for their score any more than I would want to be resented by them. But, I suspect that there is a degree of jealousy among some. That is just human nature, I suppose.


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27 May 2015, 5:19 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
Aniihya wrote:
I quit mensa because of the snobbish elitist attitude the local members had. They used their score as a measure of superiority and when someone comes along who scored higher than then (like me), you expect that if they use IQ as a measure of superiority that you would get respect. On the contrary: You are met with jealousy. That local group was a bunch of narcissistic snobs who don't contribute to society and cannot prove their intelligence through practical means.

I enjoy talking with others who have an IQ beyond my own (after all, just finding individuals who are in the range of my own score is difficult). I don't resent them for their score any more than I would want to be resented by them. But, I suspect that there is a degree of jealousy among some. That is just human nature, I suppose.


In the local Mensa group the grade of jealousy and narcissistic personality was disgusting. I really expected them to be more mature about it. I would enjoy talking with people on an equal or higher level too.



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27 May 2015, 5:27 pm

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Aniihya wrote:
I quit mensa because of the snobbish elitist attitude the local members had. They used their score as a measure of superiority and when someone comes along who scored higher than then (like me), you expect that if they use IQ as a measure of superiority that you would get respect. On the contrary: You are met with jealousy. That local group was a bunch of narcissistic snobs who don't contribute to society and cannot prove their intelligence through practical means.

I enjoy talking with others who have an IQ beyond my own (after all, just finding individuals who are in the range of my own score is difficult). I don't resent them for their score any more than I would want to be resented by them. But, I suspect that there is a degree of jealousy among some. That is just human nature, I suppose.

In the local Mensa group the grade of jealousy and narcissistic personality was disgusting. I really expected them to be more mature about it. I would enjoy talking with people on an equal or higher level too.

Well, I can't say otherwise. I have seen some extreme socializing among homogenous groups. Without a pecking order, humans create some.


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