Liberator Pistol vs Crowbar

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I was just wondering which is more effective in combat. What do you say?

With no specific variables mentioned,

Liberator

By Liberator pistol I am assuming you are referring to the disposable pistols that were dropped behind enemy lines during WWII for use by the French resistance. They would be expected to be used only once or twice to kill a German soldier and take his gun, then disposed of. As such, it would depend on the kind of combat. These pistols were neither very accurate nor reliable and as such have a very limited value if one did not have the element of surprise. I am assuming then that by referring to the situation as combat, the element of surprise has not been achieved, and you are having to actually fight your opponent. In this case, and assuming the other party is armed with a rifle and that this is close quarters fighting, the crowbar has the advantage. Bringing the rifle to bear in hand to hand fighting is difficult when compared to a pistol. The crowbar though can be used to smash the rifle and also deliver repeated blows to the opponent without the element of reliability coming into play. This gives the advantage, in this scenario, to the blunt object.

Liberator works well enough. You have one reliable shot before a somewhat lengthy reload.

Said shot is pretty much a dead person with a decent center of mass hit, and that's not all that hard to make.

For the crowbar to be as effective, you need to be within arm length distance (probably bleeding to death by that point), and make sure you make contact with a decent hit to the head of the firearm wielder, which is actually harder than putting a COM hit on someone with the Liberator.

Yeah, yeah, I know all about how quickly someone can cover 20 feet or so, but I guarantee starting off with the Liberator in hand and a round chambered, you'll shoot faster.

It depends on how close you are to your opponent, if your opponent is wearing heavy/thick/durable clothing & the size of the crowbar. If your 7 feet away & the crowbar is only 2 feet long & your opponent only has an old ripped tShirt over his chest; aiming for his chest with your pistol would be better. If your 7 feet away, your opponent is wearing a thick heavy jacket of sweater & the crowbar is 5 feet long; swinging at his head or hand holding his weapon would be better than the pistol.

Liberator. It's small, so you keep it under a handkerchief or something and get off a surprise contact shot. Or you could engage with some other weapon and keep the Liberator in reserve in case an opening appears to use it. I'll take the ranged weapon over the non-ranged any day. It is a .45 after all, and even from such a short barrel it packs a wallop.

Yes. As long as you have that one reliable and powerful shot, it'll trump any melee tool/weapon in a meeting engagement.

Even if you miss the first shot, you can run in the opposite direction and reload as you're moving. See: "Deathwind" and how he took on melee weapon armed Indians with a muzzleloading musket.

I don't think anybody here has first-hand experience with killing people using crowbars or liberator pistols.

edit: Maybe you're all experts at killing theory, though. I dunno,

I practice on neighborhood pets and zoo animals.

It keeps me sharp.

I like how the OP is 16. Way to go telling him what's best to hide in his school bag, guys.

Hopefully not. However, it's just a fun question to play with and think about, not a serious, practical topic anyone here will ever need. Besides, Liberators are very rare collector's items and few have survived. If this were a practical question then it would probably involve something like a .22 pistol instead. (Note to self: price out .22 pistol...)

I think this thread would sound funner if it was titled "Liberator Pistol vs Communist Crowbar"

Hey, I knew the answer to this question when I was 16.

As for a school bag, fragmentation grenades. Lots and lots of fragmentation grenades.

So all teenagers who are interested in weapons shoot up their schools? please.

I would say that no one weapon is best in every situation. For example, I don't know much about liberator pistols, but I imagine they are noisier than a crowbar. That could be a problem if maintaining stealth is an issue.



I lol'd

Gordon Freeman.

Liberator pistol.