Is it a bad idea to seek crowdfunding for a personal hobby?

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11 Mar 2023, 8:17 am

Note to Moderator: I am posting this here because there doesn't appear to be a good place that I can find for this particular subject. If this is wrong, feel free to move it to the appropriate forum. Thank you.

Is it inconsiderate, crass or rude for me to start a GoFundMe asking for donations to help me pay for something personal that isn't a medical emergency, a funeral, paying bills/buying groceries or for a business or charity? I ask this because there's some CPU chips on eBay that I really want to buy and I could easily pay for them with my own money, but to do so will require me to draw from my savings and I don't want to do that.

The items in question aren't things that I have any particular need for other than I like collecting them as a sort of hobby and the total would require, at most, $300.

I'm keeping in mind that there are people out there in far worse straits than I (cancer sufferers, funerals, education tuition fees, that sort of thing) and maybe my asking donations for a bunch of old CPUs that I just want for my collection is not a good idea. Maybe doing that is even illegal, I don't know.

Am I in my right mind to think of doing that or should I just let it go and leave it alone?



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11 Mar 2023, 8:44 am

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I ask this because there's some CPU chips on eBay that I really want to buy and I could easily pay for them with my own money, but to do so will require me to draw from my savings and I don't want to do that.


Bolding mine.

If you can afford them, I think it's messed up to go put together a go fund me. That's supposed to be for people who need actual help, not for people who don't feel like drawing from their savings. To be blunt, to ask for help with a hobby when you clearly already have the cash is a total d*** move. I wouldn't do it.

But that's just my two cents. Whatever that's worth.



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11 Mar 2023, 8:47 am

StephenBeets679895 wrote:
Is it inconsiderate, crass or rude for me to start a GoFundMe asking for donations to help me pay for something personal that isn't a medical emergency, a funeral, paying bills/buying groceries or for a business or charity?


Not according to the GoFundMe Common questions

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What can I raise money for?

We see people use GoFundMe to raise money for themselves, friends and family, or even complete strangers in random acts of kindness. People raise money for just about everything, including medical expenses, education costs, volunteer programs, youth sports, funerals & memorials, and even animals & pets.


Is it morally right to do it if you have the money is another question.


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11 Mar 2023, 11:41 am

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I ask this because there's some CPU chips on eBay that I really want to buy and I could easily pay for them with my own money, but to do so will require me to draw from my savings and I don't want to do that.


Bolding mine.

If you can afford them, I think it's messed up to go put together a go fund me. That's supposed to be for people who need actual help, not for people who don't feel like drawing from their savings. To be blunt, to ask for help with a hobby when you clearly already have the cash is a total d*** move. I wouldn't do it.

But that's just my two cents. Whatever that's worth.


Thank you. I thought that, too. I will NOT be GoFundMe-ing my CPU collection. Thanks for the reply. :)



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11 Mar 2023, 11:48 am

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Is it inconsiderate, crass or rude for me to start a GoFundMe asking for donations to help me pay for something personal that isn't a medical emergency, a funeral, paying bills/buying groceries or for a business or charity?


Not according to the GoFundMe Common questions

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What can I raise money for?

We see people use GoFundMe to raise money for themselves, friends and family, or even complete strangers in random acts of kindness. People raise money for just about everything, including medical expenses, education costs, volunteer programs, youth sports, funerals & memorials, and even animals & pets.


Is it morally right to do it if you have the money is another question.


Thank you. I read the same thing as you, but still felt the need to ask anyway. Needless to say, I'm not going to be doing that. I don't feel right asking for money even when there's a clear legitimate need. If I miss hard-to-find rare chip listings on eBay, that's MY problem, not anybody else's. And I don't want to make it theirs by starting a GoFundMe for that just because I'm skittish about paying more than $50/item or $100/order, even if I do actually want them. Being unemployed and broke for most of my life has clearly given me "money issues". I want to spend, but I feel I can't or shouldn't because I have no job now and can't work anyway. It's hard and I get bummed out over it way too easily.



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11 Mar 2023, 12:29 pm

StephenBeets679895 wrote:
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StephenBeets679895 wrote:
Is it inconsiderate, crass or rude for me to start a GoFundMe asking for donations to help me pay for something personal that isn't a medical emergency, a funeral, paying bills/buying groceries or for a business or charity?


Not according to the GoFundMe Common questions

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What can I raise money for?

We see people use GoFundMe to raise money for themselves, friends and family, or even complete strangers in random acts of kindness. People raise money for just about everything, including medical expenses, education costs, volunteer programs, youth sports, funerals & memorials, and even animals & pets.


Is it morally right to do it if you have the money is another question.


Thank you. I read the same thing as you, but still felt the need to ask anyway. Needless to say, I'm not going to be doing that. I don't feel right asking for money even when there's a clear legitimate need. If I miss hard-to-find rare chip listings on eBay, that's MY problem, not anybody else's. And I don't want to make it theirs by starting a GoFundMe for that just because I'm skittish about paying more than $50/item or $100/order, even if I do actually want them. Being unemployed and broke for most of my life has clearly given me "money issues". I want to spend, but I feel I can't or shouldn't because I have no job now and can't work anyway. It's hard and I get bummed out over it way too easily.


FWIW I think you have a good moral compass for feeling it's not right.


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11 Mar 2023, 1:17 pm

Right on.

I don't know if this counts for much, but I relate as much as I'm able from my own perspective. I'm on a fixed income, nothing changing anytime soon on my end, being broke is kinda my way of life and that's nothing new. It does get to bumming you out when there are things you want and just can't afford or justify the hit even when the cash is there. It sucks. Sorry you have that going on.



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11 Mar 2023, 1:40 pm

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being broke is kinda my way of life and that's nothing new.


We must wear the same tshirts :lol:

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11 Mar 2023, 1:53 pm

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FleaOfTheChill wrote:
being broke is kinda my way of life and that's nothing new.


We must wear the same tshirts :lol:

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^ :lol: Really though. What do the kids nowadays say? Mood?

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11 Mar 2023, 4:35 pm

I think it depends on the nature of the hobby.

I wouldn't hesitate to consider crowdfunding to help cover seat time in a race car, given how dependent upon outside funding racing is.

I can see crowdfunding being a good option if you have something to give back to your donors, like for example if you were to make videos about your CPU collection, people who donate get something in return.

With something like crowdfunding to participate in a competition, there's at least a moral investment alongside the money (you're their entry, they're your sponsors) so delivering the best possible result while also behaving in a sportsmanlike fashion is something you're obliged to return. Ideally, other returns that contribute to the moral investment side would be wise - social media content thanking and showing how the money is being spent, for example.

I don't think it would be a good idea to seek crowdfunding for a collecting hobby unless you're making your collection available to others in some way.


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11 Mar 2023, 4:42 pm

I think as long as you are honest there is no immorality in asking.

Be prepared for backlash/criticism.

I suppose you already search all possible avenues for your hobby so perhaps include some general info on what you are searching for and perhaps someone can point you in the direction of what you seek.
Just be safe.



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11 Mar 2023, 10:35 pm

StephenBeets679895 wrote:
Note to Moderator: I am posting this here because there doesn't appear to be a good place that I can find for this particular subject. If this is wrong, feel free to move it to the appropriate forum. Thank you.

Is it inconsiderate, crass or rude for me to start a GoFundMe asking for donations to help me pay for something personal that isn't a medical emergency, a funeral, paying bills/buying groceries or for a business or charity? I ask this because there's some CPU chips on eBay that I really want to buy and I could easily pay for them with my own money, but to do so will require me to draw from my savings and I don't want to do that.

The items in question aren't things that I have any particular need for other than I like collecting them as a sort of hobby and the total would require, at most, $300.

I'm keeping in mind that there are people out there in far worse straits than I (cancer sufferers, funerals, education tuition fees, that sort of thing) and maybe my asking donations for a bunch of old CPUs that I just want for my collection is not a good idea. Maybe doing that is even illegal, I don't know.

Am I in my right mind to think of doing that or should I just let it go and leave it alone?

I would strongly advise you to talk to a lawyer about this before you go through.The lawyer would prolly be pricier than just using your savings so I would just use your savings plus using your savings would be way more ethically and just the moral and wise thing to do.



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11 Mar 2023, 11:04 pm

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I think it depends on the nature of the hobby.

I wouldn't hesitate to consider crowdfunding to help cover seat time in a race car, given how dependent upon outside funding racing is.

I can see crowdfunding being a good option if you have something to give back to your donors, like for example if you were to make videos about your CPU collection, people who donate get something in return.

With something like crowdfunding to participate in a competition, there's at least a moral investment alongside the money (you're their entry, they're your sponsors) so delivering the best possible result while also behaving in a sportsmanlike fashion is something you're obliged to return. Ideally, other returns that contribute to the moral investment side would be wise - social media content thanking and showing how the money is being spent, for example.

I don't think it would be a good idea to seek crowdfunding for a collecting hobby unless you're making your collection available to others in some way.

I would steer clear of offering donors things in return for the donation online because that may be considered a form of unlicensed unregistered investing.The OP could go to prison for white collar crime in a worst case scenario.Maybe the OP should just start a microcharity or regular charity if he wants to do things for the common good with donations.However its up to 8500 dollars or more to incorporate a charity using a lawyer.



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12 Mar 2023, 7:34 am

The answer is simple.


NO!

Are you out of your mind?

Crowd funding is for charitable causes.

Not to get you money for your own personal use.

And its not for business start ups either. The latter would imply that the donors are investers and are entitled to shares of stock...which gets you into the issue Texas is talking about.

Unless your "hobby" happens to be...building a wall on the Mexican border of course.

Hey...your real offline name isnt...Steve Bannon...is it?



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12 Mar 2023, 12:36 pm

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I think it depends on the nature of the hobby.

I wouldn't hesitate to consider crowdfunding to help cover seat time in a race car, given how dependent upon outside funding racing is.

I can see crowdfunding being a good option if you have something to give back to your donors, like for example if you were to make videos about your CPU collection, people who donate get something in return.

With something like crowdfunding to participate in a competition, there's at least a moral investment alongside the money (you're their entry, they're your sponsors) so delivering the best possible result while also behaving in a sportsmanlike fashion is something you're obliged to return. Ideally, other returns that contribute to the moral investment side would be wise - social media content thanking and showing how the money is being spent, for example.

I don't think it would be a good idea to seek crowdfunding for a collecting hobby unless you're making your collection available to others in some way.

I would steer clear of offering donors things in return for the donation online because that may be considered a form of unlicensed unregistered investing.The OP could go to prison for white collar crime in a worst case scenario.Maybe the OP should just start a microcharity or regular charity if he wants to do things for the common good with donations.However its up to 8500 dollars or more to incorporate a charity using a lawyer.


Are you familiar with how Patreon works? Because that's how Patreon works.

OP isn't looking to do things for the common good, he's looking for funding for his hobby.

I'm saying if you want people to help pay for your hobby you need to make them care about you and the outcomes of your participation, so you should show them what their money is doing and interact with/thank them.


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12 Mar 2023, 3:16 pm

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Is it inconsiderate, crass or rude for me to start a GoFundMe asking for donations to help me pay for something personal that isn't a medical emergency, a funeral, paying bills/buying groceries or for a business or charity?


Not according to the GoFundMe Common questions

Quote:
What can I raise money for?

We see people use GoFundMe to raise money for themselves, friends and family, or even complete strangers in random acts of kindness. People raise money for just about everything, including medical expenses, education costs, volunteer programs, youth sports, funerals & memorials, and even animals & pets.


Is it morally right to do it if you have the money is another question.


Thank you. I read the same thing as you, but still felt the need to ask anyway. Needless to say, I'm not going to be doing that. I don't feel right asking for money even when there's a clear legitimate need. If I miss hard-to-find rare chip listings on eBay, that's MY problem, not anybody else's. And I don't want to make it theirs by starting a GoFundMe for that just because I'm skittish about paying more than $50/item or $100/order, even if I do actually want them. Being unemployed and broke for most of my life has clearly given me "money issues". I want to spend, but I feel I can't or shouldn't because I have no job now and can't work anyway. It's hard and I get bummed out over it way too easily.


FWIW I think you have a good moral compass for feeling it's not right.


Thanks. I feel much better hearing that from you. :)