Whats your favorite 911 smoking gun?

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So whats your favorite piece of irrifutable evidence that 911 was in inside job?

Mine is the 5 frames released by the FBI showing the exhaust of a rocket engine as opposed to a Gas turbine or jet engine you would find on a passenger aircraft.

Heres one of the frames the FBI released,




To the right of the picture you will see a white cloud with the supposed plane hidden behind that box.

Now I used to be a Gas Turbine engine mechanic when I was in the armed forces, and I never once saw a jet engine leave a visible cloud like that, have a look at this u-tube film of an aircraft taking off to see the invisible heat haze these engines emit,

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgWj9dHOtjE&mode=related&search=[/youtube]


Or go spend a day at the airport watching them take off.

Now, what sort of engine leaves that thick white trail the FBI foolish released?

Have a look at this groovy compilation of Rocket engined missiles taking off and then you use your own brains to decide what the photograpic evidence shows.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19XXTArAGaM&mode=related&search=[/youtube]

Certainly explains why the hole in the Pentagon was only 16 feet wide and went through 3 rings!

Unlike witnesses who can lie, or scientific explainations you have to take on trust, (unless your a physisist), or conspiracy films that can be doctored, this is photographic evidence as released by the purpetrators showing the exhaust trail of a missile, not an airplane.

So whats your favorite bit of proof 911 was an inside job?

The one that I love and that proves it totally is Bush sitting reading "my pet goat" at a pre-arranged visit to a school, his minders sat there , he sat and read away whilst they knew that two planes had been crashed into the wtc complex and a number of other flights where suspected of being of hostile intent.

If "someone" there hadnt known if the next plane could have been on top of them and a school full of kids that place would have been evacuated and bush sent on his way to a bunker straight away. That and norad running enough excercises for exactly the same thing that happend to slow an effective air response do it for me , the hows of the rest of it dont really matter for me people get too locked into "yes but the plane did..." etc etc and miss the point - the official conspiracy theory is as much a theory as anything else but something is definately rotten in the story.

If you havent read it check out webster tarpley's "9/11 synthetic terror".

This is all very entertaining. And complete BS.

Well youve certainly convinced me with that logical and scientific explaination Eating Poetry, at last I can be free of this obsession and move on.

Try looking at the website Loose Change Guide. It has a step-by-step, subject-by-subject debunking of every 9/11 myth, and is the most comprehensive guide to the subject I've been able to find.

*yawns*

Most of the debunks rely on Loose Change , you cant debunk "my pet goat" or the lack of air defences - I dont care why the buildings fell or any of the rest I want an explanation as to why the US air defences where stood down and why the secret service allowed bush to just sit there in a publicised appointment whilst an unknown number of hijacked jets roamed the most secure skies in the world hitting targets with impunity.

And if this was all such a suprise why most of the forces needed to invade afghanistan already well within range and the logistics already worked out....

For the coincidence theorists there do seem to be a lot of them http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2 ... o-911.html

"Well, don't worry about it" - actual quote from a US official when told of some unusual aircraft signatures.

In 1941. Just before Pearl Harbour.

Like this is something new...

There's too much evidence from too many sources that the towers were brought down by controlled demolition. Even more than a passing glance at the videotapes of them falling will show explosives and streams of molten metal from cutting thermite - both of which should not appear according to the official story. Also, in a structural collapse the building would not have come down essentially in freefall, as you can see happened by timing the collapse and comparing to the height of the towers. A structural collapse would be slower as falling debris would lose a lot of energy smashing apart the structure underneath it, however the towers apparently are torn apart immediately in front of the debris, as is done with explosive demolition.

I'm not going to tell anyone else what they should believe or disbelieve.

i think it was also an inside job. the governemt can pull it off, they do shady stuff all the time that the public isnt aware of im shure

Way to many people would have had to be involved. Sure killing someone the government could pull it off only a few need be involved, but this would take hundreds all performing as planed and nobody ever talking. The US government has never been known for such skill in these matters

I like conspiracy theories, and I know most about what both sides have to say about this.
I also know that I do not trust authorities at all. People with power will abuse it, and they always have a motive or agenda.
Otherwise they wouldn't acquire such power.
Because they care about their fellow man? Please!

You can bicker and argue about details as much as you want.
But I know that I'll be moving out into the forest soon where I can be free from "terrorism", hysteria, RFID chips and other crap, because I'm sick and tired of this entire civilization.
For all I care, they can go kill themselves as much as they want.
Would they ever come for me, I know how to make it as difficult as possible for them.

I only have the rest of my life left, and I intend to live it as free as possible.

Are you claiming that the present administration is competent enough to manage a massive conspiracy? Are we talking about the same administration?

A popular reason to doubt the government could have done it.
Though lots of people would be involved, it has been explained how not everybody needs to know what the final outcome of thier individual contribution would be.

More than that though, consider an organisation such as the Freemasons, thier sworn loyalty to each other and the promise of violent death they except for ever talkling, especially the higher up the Pyramid they get.
Consider the Skull and Bones secret Yale society from which we get so many of our ruling Elite, a close and locay club who work together to further thier own aims, especially when you consider the amount of money these people made from 911, Larry Silverstien and his 4 billion dollars for instance, or the winning put options put on the airline companies before 911.

Not only that, the treat of a horrible death for your wife and children works wonders.

Did you know that it was George Bush's brother who ran the security company that looked after the twin towers?, and insured no bomb sniffer dogs where allowed in after the "cable update" work?

As for the administration being too incompetant, its not exactly the government themselves that did it out right, just elements, look to the very competant agencies like the FBI, CIA or even Mossad, did you know the head of NORAD is a known Zionist?, what a great excuse for getting America to destroy all Israels enemies for them, and there are a lot of very patriotic Zionists in power in America, including most of the media.

This page might be interesting.




Of course, we don't know all that the CIA has done. Since an argument from ignorance helps nobody, we should look at the history that has been declassified. Judging by that record, the CIA hasn't been very impressive in the past 60 years. As for the head of NORAD being a Zionist, I really couldn't care less. I prefer to deal with "X can be shown to have happened" rather than "This guy believes this, and so he must have done X or Y." Anyone can play hypotheticals. Could have, should have, might have, would have. Weasel words.

Makes no difference what he spends the money on.
Compare the purchase of the wtc towers before 911, they where unprofitable due to low tenancy following Black Monday and the increase in internet trading.
They had the Sword of Damocles hanging over them due to the disimilar metal corrosion caused by bolting aluiminium clading directly to steel, they also had the problem of the removal of the high asbestos content.
In other words they where condemned, to repair the buildings the cost would have been astronomical, scaffolding alone had been quoted around two billion dollars.
You have to think for yourself with 911 rather than reading some website, would you spend 3 billion dollars on a leasehold for an unprofitable building that required billions of dollars of work?

No.

But Lucky Larry as they call him, ends up with the buildings being demolished for free, and the money to replace them with bright new shiney buildings!

How is that an evidence that Larry didnt gain a lot of money from 911?