Having problems on the Bus

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Theres these two guys on the back of my bus that i ride to high school that tick me off. Theve been making fun of me for the past 2 months. In cronological order heres the stuff they did to me: 1 they start of being normal tell me im awkward and laugh at me when im talking to them for no reson 2 they begin to harass me by taking pictures of me with their cell phones and say they will put it on their my space pages but there pages is locked so only ther frends can se it 4 they tell me they love me and make lewd hand gestures at me and show me drawings of naked guys . 5 they begin sitting on my seat on the bus i caNT PUSH THEM OUT OF THE WAY CAUSE IM A SKINNY GUY AND THERE BOTH FAT 6 they throw stuff including there shoes at me and i throw stuff back at them so i look like i got a backbone. after dat i get i the one kids face and tell him to stop messin with me, but he just laffs at me. 7 they show me a pornografic picture on there cell phones 8 another kid for no reason says im an attention W---- and want attention, just because i talk back when they say s**t, and form a "council" where they ignore me, so now i cant stick up for myself,. I also have to metion that i have trouble making comebacks and stuff to say bak at dem cause i got aspergers and that typ of stuf is hard for us, and when i do say stuff back it comes out sounding cheesy and the same. Its hard, too caus i got no friends, and dats a big weak spot for me wen, they make fun of me. I cant go to the principals office and make a report for sexual harrasment, cause if they get in trouble den i get in trouble too for sayin stuff backhem. Dis girl says i freak out about everything everybody does to me, but i have a right to. Theres also these two getto/gangster guys that sit in front of me callin me a fag. I dont know what to say back to them. i really need some comebacks and good advice for these things these kids have said to insult me:
you're ret*d
your slow
your satan
you have no friends
shut up
do you like cows

thanks. just i wish my life was just alot better and i wish i had friends

Well... try sitting in the front of the bus. Also, and I will admit I got harassed for many years in elementary in middle school, but sometimes people pick on others cause that person being picked on is seen as weak. I hate to be the one to tell ya this, but for me, one way I managed to stop alot of the harassment, and I am not saying it eather right or wrong, but I felt I had no alternative and had to stop it, I could not rely on anybody else anymore, I took matters into my own hands and after being screwed with I was pushed to the point that 1 day I flipped out and smashed the face in of 1 person who was toumenting me in front of his friends. Indeed I got into trouble, indeed, he ended up needing X-rays in the hospital, indeed I regret it, but only a little. But the bullying stopped and so didnt his buddies harassment cause they saw basicly I did not care what happened to me as far as punishment or injury, I felt I had nothing to loose anymore, except for their harassment and just went for it, and it worked.

I am not recommending this, but it seems to me your choices are limited, and thats a absolute last resort really when no other option is avalible. Try sitting somewhere else is the best thign I can think of.

I'm sorry, I don't know how to help you. Kids can be awful. Just keep you thoughts positive and stay strong. You can only change your state of mind, not theirs, unfortunately.

I suffered bullying on the bus all through middle-school and throughout high-school. I'd walk or ride a bike when I lived within 5 miles of the school, that was the only way to avoid bus bullies.

So, sadly I have no solid advice other than finding other transport.

How old are you - and how old are they?

You don't have to answer but think about it.

By waving pornography around and by harassing you they fall into one of two categories.

1. Too young and therefore having illegal posession of porn (I think that if they have child/young boy porn on their phones anyway, it's probably illegal)...

OR

2. Old enough to accept responsibility for their actions and therefore subject to anti-harassment laws etc...

I'd recommend that if they go to your school (or even if not), you talk to your school councilor, but STRESS that it's private and you don't want them approached about it. If it happens on a daily basis you could arrange for them to be caught in the act.

if they call u satan try to say if im satan i would send u in hell.....and grow up b*****s

For those of you who relate your stories about fighting back...
If you've been out of school for a bit of time you may not know what happens to kids now-a-days if they do fight back.

In this era of school violence, the OP might get into a lot more trouble than either of you did.
I don't know.

Luckily for me I never had to ride the bus except for sports (the few times I tried them out) and band (we all stuck together then pretty much).

You've been given the advice I would give you.

I don't see where having a few lines memorized is going to help you.
You'll still be less skilled at word wars than they will, and you probably won't keep enough retorts in your head to have the right one everytime.

That's exactly my childhood too.

If you can, sit towards the front of the bus; make friends with the bus driver.

Comebacks . . . hmm, well if they have porn, then you could always announce in a loud voice something like "the only reason y'all are looking is because y'all will never get any."

That's more one of those comments to make while getting off the bus . . . actually.

Or if they say something, answer with, "Yeah? And the point is?"

Or in reference to the myspace pics . . . you might say something along the lines of, "If y'all want a partner that bad, just use each other."

I'm not too bad at stuff like that nowadays. In a way, I wish I could ride the bus with you and take 'em down for you.

Sorry to hear this is happening to you. I am female and went through a similar thing when I was at high school.

On the bus, people would whisper about me to their friends and laugh. They would mock me by flapping their hands and then laughing, because I used to flap quite a bit at that time. They would throw banana peels and food scraps at me. They would sit at the back of the seat I was on and put things in my hair and kick my seat.

In the end, I stopped catching the bus and walked to school...even though each morning it took me 1 hour and 50 minutes to walk there.
Not much advice I can offer. I don't know how old you are. Maybe you could tell your parents that this is happening and they could arange alternative transportation for you...such as taking a taxi to school or a different bus.

A come back I used to use was..."Wow, you must be really insecure to have to say those sort of things...do you have a hard life at home?". It usually made them quiet, either that or just pick on me more. So not sure if you should say something like that or not.

I hope this stops for you soon, I know how much it sucks.

Only have a meltdown on them IF you think you can beat them - no sense getting clobbered.

BEFORE you do anything rash, make sure that it is REPORTED and DOCUMENTED somewhere.

That will make it much easier for you to present a defensive case - particularly if you can say that you reported it and they didn't help you.

This is a situation similar to the one I found myself in. A bully from my first school turned up at secondary, on the same damn bus as me, and continued his assault on me. When he was not on the bus, his little brother would chip in. Because I was different to the other kids, I only got sympathy from one little kid, who to be honest would not have been much use as a weapon. Never resolved the conflict, the two brothers were buttholes right up until the last I saw of them. Rich parents whose coattails they rode on, that was all they cared for, and would probably hire someone else to hit me in case they got blood on them or something. I admit now that punching the younger one on the chin felt good, if it only shut him up for a week.

I know this not much of a solution, but you can see from the rest of the posts, you are not alone.

Bullies picking on kids, and a kid actually punching someone in the face are two different things... or so it seems these days.
It's a shame but a reality that bullying is still glossed over by the adults in our school systems.
Hitting them back just seems to get the true victim in more trouble than the bullies.
Plus, the bully doesn't give a s**t what happens to him as far as disciplinary measures or academic issues like his victim probably does.

I'm not against one protecting themself. Definitely making it well known what is going on is important.

I also want to say that I have been subject to my share of bullying.
I could get mad, get back in their face, and then when I turned my back, they'd kick my in the butt and everyone would laugh.

I was in a couple of fights in school, one I dominated, the other I got my face punched in and 'lost'.

It sucks, but I lived through it.
As an adult, having been in the military and having all that constant physical exercise, I wound up looking like I could kick someon's butt even though I may not have the heart to do so.
But, I also learned how to get into someone's face and when I was able to grow a full beard, I looked more intimidating.

Anyway, back to the bullying... there's been many instances now of people letting loose and killing fellow students because this person was picked on relentlessly, among other things, and the adults didn't do squat about it.
I'm sick of this s**t myself!

Although I want my daughter to be able to stand up for herself, I'll go down to her school and get right in the principal's face if he/she isn't doing their job concerning appropriate behavior of students.

It's hard to tell you the right thing to do that will make all your troubles disappear, or diminish significantly.
You should be having the adults support you more though. The bus driver sounds like a complete ass if he/she isn't keeping watch on the kids.
That's where I'd concentrate my energy first... the adults.

The world is so concerned with political correctness these days that if you make the whole bullying thing known to the right people, they will have to act.

At my son's primary school, my son has to sign a contract every year - even though he's only in year 1 this year. It includes, amongst other things, a pledge not to bully.