Is not giving holiday presents child abuse?

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Is not giving holiday presents child abuse?
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15 Dec 2007, 2:28 am

A woman at work is pregnant, and I heard that when the child is born, she is refusing to get it christmas presents,(She's Christian) or allow it to be bought any Christmas presents, " To teach it a lesson" 8O
The lesson is supposed to be that Christmas presents are not important, birthday presents are, and Christmas is Jesus's birthday. Words to that effect.

My idea of the lesson the kid will learn is
1) Good kids get presents from santa
2) The bullies down the street get presents from Santa, so they're better than me
3) I've been good all year, but got no presents
4) I'm defective
5) Life sucks

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15 Dec 2007, 2:53 am

opal wrote:
A woman at work is pregnant, and I heard that when the child is born, she is refusing to get it christmas presents,(She's Christian) or allow it to be bought any Christmas presents, " To teach it a lesson" 8O
The lesson is supposed to be that Christmas presents are not important, birthday presents are, and Christmas is Jesus's birthday. Words to that effect.

My idea of the lesson the kid will learn is
1) Good kids get presents from santa
2) The bullies down the street get presents from Santa, so they're better than me
3) I've been good all year, but got no presents
4) I'm defective
5) Life sucks

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There are some things to know, is she a single mother? if not, then her husband or partner would agree?

Those "lessons" would not be neccesarily the case if the kid is thought there is no Santa, but I agree, is a good part of childhoog the "christmas spirit", I loved christmas as a kid, so to take that away from them, would not be a good thing IMO, she should remember how things were when she was a kid before thinking about that. Although, I don't think this is actually abuse, just because of it, which it depends on other factors.

On the other hand, she might be a devoted christian, I think few christians (different denominations) don't celebrate christmas because of the pagan influence on it, so most of them decide not to participate at all or some of them might do it differently rejecting all the commercial stuff related to it.


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15 Dec 2007, 2:56 am

everything about christmas is derived from Yule



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15 Dec 2007, 3:07 am

Is this a serious question or a joke?


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15 Dec 2007, 3:08 am

Of course it's NOT child abuse...


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15 Dec 2007, 3:09 am

I think serious

one question

the poor?

that is all
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15 Dec 2007, 3:11 am

Kilroy, I am stalking you... :)

What are you talking about? :? :)


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15 Dec 2007, 3:12 am

:o ohhh I'll let you
you seem really nice
I mean, like what about the poor
are they're parents abusing them cause they cant get them gifts?



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15 Dec 2007, 3:16 am

I can tell you from experience, I was poor as hell and my daughter didn't get presents, but she always had the best school, the best possible safe conditions, car/transportation, food and most importantly the best love from me!! ! She knows it now...


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15 Dec 2007, 3:17 am

:) you sound like a great mom!



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15 Dec 2007, 3:20 am

Thank you... :oops:

I don't know, both me and my daughter had a tandem temper tantrum major freak out today when the door buzzer startled us, I almost thought it was going to end with cops at the door...but for the first time ever I realized what it was that set both of us up and from now on it will not happen again...I know what I have to do...so I don't know if I am good, but I thoroughly enjoy loving her...


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15 Dec 2007, 3:21 am

don't argue I know I am right :P



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15 Dec 2007, 3:23 am

:oops: I don't know if I am using the right emoticon, whatever they call it, but you made me blush...


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15 Dec 2007, 3:24 am

:) thats the right one

now I am required to ask you that I wont receive an angry letter :lol:



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15 Dec 2007, 3:27 am

No anger from me to you...


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15 Dec 2007, 3:29 am

You WERE supposed to receive a letter from me and because I was a zombie with my headache, it didn't happen, I am sorry...I have been very stressed out in the last few days...I had a minitempertantrum at work (with good cause...someone was being rude to a patient...) and I have been stressing over it a lot...


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