Can we please talk about candles..

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NathanYoung
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25 Mar 2009, 2:29 am

It's boring not talking about them. The last 3 years it's what I do and advocacy. Places to talk about candles specifically online are just not really my thing. I feel if I combine talking about scented candles and autism advocacy at the same time I'd be happy. So will people talk about the two in this forum topic please?

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1. Soybean scented candles is what I do. I only make container candles and use the top end scented candle oils after I review them for strength and superior character.

2. Autism and disability employment for the candles. It's been nice and nothing like it has been done before and lots of business people and all like what I do.

3. So if I combine really good candles and advocacy like I have then I can just keep making more of them and employ people with autism and other disabilities like I have and as time passes I am able to do that more. For instance the local county fair may donate a booth ($300 value) and the radio stations will do an ad about how my company is there selling them.

Seems like more funding to research more candle fragrances.

4. I started making candles as an autism and disability work company because I was frustrated and got really determined. Usually I'd avoid such social outcomes but no one ever changed any part of the world we live in by being entirely detached.

Well the conclusion of this first post is, let's talk candles and advocacy.

What kind of candle fragrances do you like? There are several over-priced higher end brands known nationally that I try to out do. I really like the creme brulee and have made over 10,000 candles including tealights.

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25 Mar 2009, 5:27 am

I don't know about candles, but I like the scents of jasmine and lavender. Sometimes I find a product with a scent called fresh air, summer breeze, summer rain, something like that, where you can't really identify what the scent is but it's fresh and clean. I like that too. That's probably too subtle for a candle. I like sandalwood but it might be too strong a scent to work as a candle, I use it as perfume sometimes, in very small amounts. I like the scent of pine, too.

You seem to be very into candles. I'm glad you found a way to make it a profession - that's really smart of you :wtg: ! Is there anywhere online we can buy your candles?


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25 Mar 2009, 5:50 am

Candles were an obsession of mine several years ago. Lots of the larger church type candles I bought didn't have a wick suitable for the diameter of the candles so they used to burn a deep crater inside them and needed the wax trimming off periodically. Rather than discarding the wax I collected it and had a go a making my own in a crude way.

I used a moulding technique and used the cardboard inner from kitchen foil as the mould, then taped some flax string at one end in the centre and poured in molten wax. It worked quite well but was a bit hit and miss because sometimes the tape would give way and the molten wax leak out. It was fun though.
The white (flax based?) packaging string used to work quite well as a wick.

Other experiments were based on several such wicks in a ceramic or terracotta pot. However, I discovered that if I put too many wicks in then the surface of the wax would catch fire!

Tea lights always tend to leave a tiny bit of unused wax at the bottom too, so I collect that. Takes ages though until I've enough wax from them to make a candle.

Maybe I'll have a go at the "dunking" method of making candles some time. Not sure of the proper name for it. The one where you dip the wick in the molten was repeatedly building up the thickness of the candle.

I certainly couldn't hold up a candle to your enterprise though! :D

I find candles interesting, but I'd imagine with a lot of people the topic would get on their wick.


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25 Mar 2009, 1:38 pm

I'd love to find a workshop to learn candle-making. I guess I could learn from the internet too. So many hobbies, so little time!


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25 Mar 2009, 2:53 pm

KaliMa wrote:
I don't know about candles, but I like the scents of jasmine and lavender. Sometimes I find a product with a scent called fresh air, summer breeze, summer rain, something like that, where you can't really identify what the scent is but it's fresh and clean. I like that too. That's probably too subtle for a candle. I like sandalwood but it might be too strong a scent to work as a candle, I use it as perfume sometimes, in very small amounts. I like the scent of pine, too.

You seem to be very into candles. I'm glad you found a way to make it a profession - that's really smart of you :wtg: ! Is there anywhere online we can buy your candles?


I have had the fragrance of Jasmine but need to find another. It was ok but I wanted it of a higher quality. I purchase the oils in 5lb+ quantities at a time to save on shipping per ounce unit and to benefit from quantity discounts. For ultra popular fragrances I attempt to go to the manufactures direct, which have offered free shipping because of the nature of the company and purchase 50lbs quantities at a time. For my Crème Brulee it is hard to find who made the fragrance and so I try to have them similarly produced but as of yet I am not entirely happy. I can save 30-40% by buying bulk 50lbs quantities at a time.

With regard to lavender I have found a few, but some of hints of woodsy in them which people do not like. Lavender, Vanilla and more complex like blueberry cheesecake are hard to find a good fragrance for that really combine the complex individual notes together in a competent fashion. Some fragrances I have made that combine top notch premium fragrances together to make Chocoholic and Peanut Butter Cup that I made myself by combining good finds in the fragrance supply orders I already have had.

As far as buying them online, I do not think this forum allows for solicitation but they are available online.



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25 Mar 2009, 2:56 pm

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Candles were an obsession of mine several years ago. Lots of the larger church type candles I bought didn't have a wick suitable for the diameter of the candles so they used to burn a deep crater inside them and needed the wax trimming off periodically. Rather than discarding the wax I collected it and had a go a making my own in a crude way.

I used a moulding technique and used the cardboard inner from kitchen foil as the mould, then taped some flax string at one end in the centre and poured in molten wax. It worked quite well but was a bit hit and miss because sometimes the tape would give way and the molten wax leak out. It was fun though.
The white (flax based?) packaging string used to work quite well as a wick.

Other experiments were based on several such wicks in a ceramic or terracotta pot. However, I discovered that if I put too many wicks in then the surface of the wax would catch fire!

Tea lights always tend to leave a tiny bit of unused wax at the bottom too, so I collect that. Takes ages though until I've enough wax from them to make a candle.

Maybe I'll have a go at the "dunking" method of making candles some time. Not sure of the proper name for it. The one where you dip the wick in the molten was repeatedly building up the thickness of the candle.

I certainly couldn't hold up a candle to your enterprise though! :D

I find candles interesting, but I'd imagine with a lot of people the topic would get on their wick.


I use hemp wicks and certified ingredients. As far as ceramics I have an idea for disability to work day groups to paint ceramics and I will fire them as artisan container candles. Recycling candle wax is an interesting idea as I also have tin container candles where the tins can be recycled while the containers heated to separate into separate larger containers for the reusable fragrance and wax mix for each fragrance mixture. The issue with recycling glass containers is a liability of the glass loosing integerty after even one usage previously and it breaking during a customers re-use. I called the pilot program candle recycling.



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25 Mar 2009, 2:59 pm

Greentea wrote:
I'd love to find a workshop to learn candle-making. I guess I could learn from the internet too. So many hobbies, so little time!


I'm going to have free online training videos on how to use converted crock pots to make hundreds of candles a week. These videos will be fo people with disabilities to do there own candle company as a SSI / SSDI to work plan for the P.A.S.S program or otherwise. Participants could link up after registering as an authorized disability manufacture for public relations assistency in their area by C.I, my company.



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25 Mar 2009, 3:16 pm

wow, videos! That'll be fantastic. Please don't forget to tell us here on WP when they're online.


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25 Mar 2009, 3:23 pm

I do have plans to make a green tea candle.



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25 Mar 2009, 6:34 pm

Nathan, I commend you on your candle-making company! It sounds like a wonderful employment opportunity for people with disabilities. :)

Sandalwood is my favorite candle scent. My least favorite scent is pine; it made me feel physically ill a couple of Christmases ago.



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25 Mar 2009, 6:43 pm

Thus far I've focused mainly on food related like deserts for a gourmet theme. However sandalwood, like another person mentioned, is already likely to be put in the line. The nature fragrances are liked by a more natural crowd here. There are thousands of fragrances and I want to be the largest source of handmade candle fragrance types on the internet as well.

Here are the fragrances I have now and I keep attention to what sells and during what season. This is a refined list after sales review.

Food

Orange Satsuma - A refreshing and zesty fragrance with hints of pineapple, grapefruit and apple.
Coconut - Tropical, nutty, sweetness.
Grapefruit - Just like a freshly picked grapefruit (Ruby Red).
Pina Colada - Coconuts and Pineapple! Just like the drink..
Creme Brulee - Rich, decadent caramel, vanilla cream and burnt sugar. MOST POPULAR!
Caramel Pecan - Warm Rich Caramel Pecan Pie.
Pineapple Mango - Sweet pineapple, soothing mango, floral with bottom notes of warm vanilla amber.
Chocoholic - We created a chocolate candle unlike anything else on the market. Sourced from several premium sources and secretly mixed uniquely together.
Peanut Butter Cookie - Peanut butter cookie candle that is a rich, buttery, freshly baked aroma of real peanut butter cookies!
Peanut Butter Cup - Another Humboldt Candles original. Very realistic and very good.
Gingerbread Applesauce - Words cannot describe how incredible this scent smells! Spicy, warm gingerbread embedded with baked granny smith apples.
Apple Pie - Lots of spices in this Apple Pie, but you can still smell the yummy apples.
Apple Jack - Baked apples with cinnamon, spice and a twist of citrus.
Cinnamon Toast - Hint of toast with lots of cinnamon and sugar sprinkled on top.

Nature, Floral & Garden

Mother Earth - All of her earthiest offerings – musk, sandalwood, sharp resins with refreshing herbals, finished with a bit of earth.
Humboldt Garden - A Humboldt garden on a morning day.
Butterfly Kisses - As sweet as a smile, hug and gentle kiss (clean floral).
Gardenia - Very strong white floral – so distinctive and lush!

Romance

Misbehaving - A flirtatious, fruity, sexy fragrance. A tantalizing aroma of sweet juicy candied apples and pomegranate, with nuances of fresh ivy and oak moss.

Misc & Humor

Love Spell - A lavishly lush blend of cherry blossom, muguet, red apple, and peach with hints of tamarind and blonde wood.
Baby's Butt - This scent is pure baby. Not a powder and not exactly a lotion. One of the best baby scents we have ever smelled.
Monkey Farts - Banana, berries and bubble gum. As featured in the Eureka Reporter front and center. People continue to smell the candle and then say it smells good. This creates laughter and as a gift it has created memorable Christmases.



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25 Mar 2009, 6:53 pm

NathanYoung wrote:
I do have plans to make a green tea candle.


That would be fantastic! I'm obsessed with green tea - Coty has some body care products in this fragrance, otherwise it's not easy to come across. It's one of my favorites smells and I would love to find green tea scented candles.

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25 Mar 2009, 10:18 pm

After 3 years of doing this adding a new candle fragrance is like a child at Christmas morning. Christmas does not excite me much anymore but once did.



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25 Mar 2009, 10:22 pm

Good for you! I spend so much money on candles. They relax me and I can block out all of the stuff that I find overstimulating when I have my candles lit.

I have a lot of scented ones (cinnamon, jasmine, orange satsuma, vanilla are the usual ones) but if I want to light a bunch at once, I like ones that are unscented so that I can enjoy the light without being bombarded with so many frangrances.



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25 Mar 2009, 10:29 pm

For relaxation I have in the works aromatherapy candles and some people have asked for unscented ones so those are labeled "Just Soy".

There are also meditation fragrances.



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25 Mar 2009, 11:30 pm

Sallamandrina wrote:
NathanYoung wrote:
I do have plans to make a green tea candle.


That would be fantastic! I'm obsessed with green tea - Coty has some body care products in this fragrance, otherwise it's not easy to come across. It's one of my favorites smells and I would love to find green tea scented candles.

Good luck!


I thought I was the only person obsessed with green tea scent! Bvlgari and Helena Rubinstein have green tea lines too, btw. Though they're expensive.


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