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Let me address the following concerns for those of you in the dark. After all my thread and concenik's thread (He is an admin at Con Cen) were wiped out from the nazi-like moderators of this forum.

Famous quote from a fellow unmentionable character who lives on this forum striving to flame all others posts.

"conspiracycentral", eh? Those guys will believe anything. Talk about a bunch of morons. They are the guys claiming man never went to the moon, that Area 51 hides aliens, that Illuminati is a cult actually controlling the world, and that crop circles are made by giant ufos. I'm sorry, but they have absolutely NO credibility...

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pheew. that's quite a mouthful - written before my time there..

I don't even believe in some the things listed there as it goes

I think in practice we're probably a little bit more down to earth than that very political sounding statement might evince.

And people often, if not always have contrary viewpoints! We do try and maintain respect for each other though - unless someone is being a complete troll, of course.

For instance, some people on the site might strongly believe in the chemtrail phenomena whereas another memeber who is a 65 year old aeronautics engineer absolutely does NOT believe in such a thing!

The lack of groupthink and contrary perspectives leads to some quite wonderful and vibrant debates.

All in all, we want to find as much truth about the rather grim political realities observed and lived through in the world today, as possible.

We're not in cloud cuckoo land and often are right on the money, as it goes. I felt it was necessary to write a little companion piece seeing as mmstick has posted up the above list of hallmarks from the site. lol

No worries, it's not an attempt at a recruitment drive or some such! haha

- don't believe everything you hear - not all of us "conspiracy theorists" ( ) are at all like the stereotype that is sometimes bandied about by ignorant keyboard jockeys or tabloid press - not on concen definitely!

er.anyhow..*ahem*

The way i see it, maybe theres conspiracys going on,
maybe theres not. Either way, why should i care?

I`m just one person, if these things happen theres nothing
a can do but make the best of it and live my life. If they
dont happend, theres nothing i can do but make the best
of it and live my life.

So, why should i care or spend any time on this?
i need a good reason.

Lets say for arguments sake that theres an Area 51
somewhere and they hide it from people. So what?
I really dont care and have no wish to know any-
thing about it. There could be 100 Area 51`s for
all i care, its just not interesting. 9/11, was it a
terrorist attack or were there bombs and stuff in
the building, the goverment had a hand in it?
I dont know and i dont care at all.

""Conspiracy Central is not a place of proselytizing or preaching, but of earnestly seeking the truth""

^
Yeah, that and a dollar will get me a bag of chips. I dont need
the truth, i just need food to survive and to live my life. I
really dont have time to waste on "the truth" and i`m envious
of those who have that kind of time to waste.

double post..

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well, speaking personally I've been involved in grass roots stuff for a while before going into the research community..

I guess, after I travelled around the world for some years, working here and there - I got kind of shocked by the poverty and seeing starving children etc etc.

It's great for you if you have everything you need - and if you don't give a damn - well, fine, that's your choice - and also your look out for you might be rudely awakened one day should the false construct of abundance come crashing to pieces in your own society..

For me, I give a hoot - so that's why I don't think I'm wasting my time

the sentiment of not needing to know is an anathema to me tbh - I like to well informed.

We don't really talk about area 51 on concen - that's just your stereotype of us, no offence.

We're more concerned about things happening that are tangible and can be affected by people being informed - knowledge is empowerment.

I don't like the rat race - or super rich cartels deciding who is allowed to have societal infrastructures free of intense poverty, food to eat, hospitals etc and 'how' people are 'permitted' to live in our very controlled societies - where ever in the world it is..not even to mention the wars that are prosecuted purely for the financial gain of a corrupt few etc etc.

Just think, one day it all might arrive on your own doorstep - what then? I certainly wouldn't want to risk myself to help those who previously didn't give a hoot because they had everything they needed and so didn't care. Sorry if that sounds harsh but these are quite bad times, if you hadn't noticed.. but whatever - you've got to live as you think is best for you..

Previously i would have found comments such as 'I don't care, I don't need to know" as disparaging and somewhat depressing - but I've heard them so many times nowadays I just think. 'fine. next!" We try and concentrate on engaging in discussion and analysis with people who have an active conscience and appetite to be informed.

good luck

apparently triple post. maybe moshi would care to delete these too

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I like to be informed, i just dont like to use my
time on things that changes nothing, even if i
should stumble upon "the truth".

""It's great for you if you have everything you need - and if you don't give a damn - well, fine, that's your choice - and also your look out for you might be rudely awakened one day should the false construct of abundance come crashing to pieces in your own society..""

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Well...sounds like a have no clue. The thing is, if society crashed
tomorrow i`ll be one of those whos doing just fine I`m not a
part of the ratrace in any way, nothing can happen that would be
a rude awakening to me. I`m prepared, i just dont use my time
on discussing things that nothing comes out of, you can discuss
conspiracy theorys every day until the day you die and nothing
will come of it. Just a lot of talking and theorie, and thats it.
Me, i spend my time making sure i have what i need and being
prepared. The world could turn into a zomie holocaust tomorrow
and i wouldn`t worry much about it I`m ready for whatever
and i`m not worried about societys problems. I do instead
of talk and that leads to results. If mobs of angry soldiers tries
to get into my house tomorrow they`ll get into some real
trouble real fast I`m prepared, are you or is it all talk?

""Just think, one day it all might arrive on your own doorstep - what then?""

I was thinking about that 15 years ago, I`m way ahead of you.
Difference is i dont talk, i do. And just thinking about it wont do
anything. If something arrives on my doorstep uninvited i almost
feel sorry for it, it doesn`t have a chance, this is my house and
here we play by my rules. Society can do whatever it wants, i
dont care.

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What bothers me is how the media treats us.
Totally wrong. And 911 was actually JASSM Missiles.
That was even more wrong. Can't trust the media at all.
I fear for what is about to happen. Biological Warfare is going to happen throughout major cities but I do not know when or exactly which ones.

^
But i dont understand why this bothers you?
You`re one person living one life, s**t happens
every minute of every day all over the planet,
that is a fact, what makes you care so much
about goverments and biological warfare and
buildings collapsing and the media?
just curious.

The way i see it, us humans are a little over
half way through the process of exterminating
ourselfes, and we are doing a great job. So
why bother, why not just strap in and enjoy
the ride? We`re obviously gonna die, every
singel one of us at one point or another so..
whats the point? I say, fasten your seatbelts
and enjoy, this is going to f-ing awesome

Because people die.
You may not care but still. What about those who do care about living.
What about those who experience great distress, torture, agony, pain, etc.
Sure it is just human lives. After all it's just a physical body and the soul is just to reincarnate later on. But look at the whole picture. Should these elite governments and stuff be able to do such?

well, the primary focus for me as to why I'm 'bothered' is because I am a father and I despise being a slave. That's it - not so exciting. children is general, I guess too - they are innocents until society gets it's paws on their minds.

Unless they happen to be born in an area that has it's food supply cut off or is being bombed back to the stone age, of course...then they're 'lucky' to even get the chance to grow up! pretty sick stuff what we let happen in our name - if we don't object to our name being used for such atrocity then we are indeed complicit through complacency in many ways - ah well. no kudos there, what goes round, comes round etc

It's great that you're prepared - me? trying to be, yeah.

Yes I do do 'do' - do you do? Oh, no - I remember you said there's no point

It's amazing what change people actually can achieve imho - and it's probably very good for the soul too, to 'give a rat's ass' ie care

I tend to agree with Ernest Mandel's view of the changing rhythms in society between periods of active organisation and complacency.

I'm not sure why you've decided you know that we 'just talk' - a bit presumptious maybe?

Maybe a projection?

I'm glad you feel safe in your home - I truly hope you are and remain so. Your government might have different ideas - you're in the states?

In terms of not physical 'doing' but 'talk' and writing there is still actually a lot that can be done - although physically resisting and protesting is worthwhile too, of course - I've been through all that already plenty - not saying I won't again but now I primarily concentrate on this medium - words - it's still doing I'll go to Strasbourg though if I can - there's a big NATO summit there - I object to how NATO is following the 'Heartland theory' almost to the letter - it could lead to another world war ultimately - I'm against that - I have my child's future to think of..

so far, even though they are determined to push it through, EU policy makers have not been able to fully ratify 'the Lisbon Treaty' here in Europe - mainly due to Irish peoples' objections - from being informed on the matter..

It's good because Article 6 of the Lisbon treaty has a sub clause which then also has a footnote - the language is very legalistic - anyhow, the footnote basically declares it ok for EU countries to execute any citizen they perceive is a 'threat' to the 'state'..their words...

You might even say that's okay - I'd disagree - but the thing is that 'threat' has no clear legal definition ergo they could execute anybody they wished - even a foreigner travelling through here.

smells like 1984 to me.
Even the largely controlled mainstream press is talking about it! It's idiotic to pretend it's a fantasy at this point - not saying you did - you say you're 15 years ahead of the curve - kudos to you - did you serve in Vietnam or some other place in the 'services'? lol 'services' weird the words 'they' use isn't it? Quite a 'service' has been 'rendered' when the poor blighters come back in a pine box from Afghanistan/Iraq

There's a lot people can 'do' - even Bill Hicks who also advocated 'enjoying the ride' didn't propose to sit back and do nothing..quite the opposite - he wanted people to be angry and 'doing' to take back their inalienable right of freedom - something that has been hugely eroded h over the last years whilst people watched television. By the way - Obama works for the bankers, in case you didn't know.

It's a bit too complacent/nihilistic nowadays to say 'it's not my problem' but fair enough your perspective is to look after number one and maybe a family too - that's all good but the paradox is that it's getting soo bad soon that by doing nothing now it more than likely could
turn out that you 'did' yourself/family a disservice in retrospect - our site isn't monitored for nothing - 'they' are afraid of people who are vocal and express a belief in liberty and a desire for humans to have it. *shrugs*

I'd say you 'should' at least have some sort of local discussion about some of these things if you can eg. what do we do if martial law is declared and people start getting taken away. what do we do if food supplies are limited or cut off, what do we do if they declare having a food garden illegal (! - you're informed,right? ), what do we do if our money(taxes) is stolen by the trillions for greedy bankers and then the fed won't even tell us where it went! How do we protect our water supply? what if there are refugees? etc etc - It's painful to realise that you've been tricked and are a slave after all. Them's the breaks, comanchero.

i want to do what I can to grant my children a chance at having liberty - maybe it's not even possible, maybe things are too far gone - maybe not - maybe the sun will belch out a cob of plasma and we'll lose all electricity the world over as the transformers got fried - scientists are worried about it - it's real stuff,mate

but even if I/we can't manage to wake up folk like you(maybe?) or manage to somehow prevent a international totalitarian state - (it'd require people waking up)from emerging at least i'll be happy in knowing that my children will recognise that I tried. And that's all I can 'do'

It's all about 'doing' dude lol

Please tell me you aren't serious, really, come on,

, do you really believe in that, just please tell me this is a game or something.

Give him a break though. He's 15 and still trying to make sense of the this curious spinning orb we all find ourselves on - I mean, aren't we all?

There's nothing intrinsically valid to mock of someone because they have the 'temerity' to dare to express their heartfelt sentiments as to what they perceive as utterly unconscionable about the way we treat each other imho .. maybe we get more cynical as we get older, we've seen so much crap happen around us or to us that we detach to an extent to preserve ourselves?

I'm not speaking for him - I just think you should go easy, you know - in the case that you mightn't have been going to because you perceived their sentiments as being preposterous from your own points of view..

Scientists studied those aluminum helmets....
They actually increase the signals.

http://people.tribe.net/jamesd/blog/de0 ... 2e60d9a33d
xD

the kitty looks freaked out about the new hat