Trashy, slu*ty females

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There are things I both love and hate about being a female. I love makeup, clothing, hats, pretty shoes, accessories, and the whole concept of being 'ladylike'. I cannot STAND the way that women are STILL, after all these years, judged mainly on appearance and treated as sex objects, as well as not taken seriously as men's intellectual equals (or in some cases, SUPERIORS!)

Don't get me wrong...I can be trashy enough when I need to. I have a filthy mouth when I get going, a very masculine sense of humour, and can and WILL stand up for myself when necessary. But I like to think of myself as the Dorothy Parker version of trashy....sassy, mouthy, and a bit too smart for my own good....but always maintaining some measure of ladylike-ness.

All this being said, what is REALLY REALLY REALLY annoying me lately (and I have to say, it's always annoyed me), are the PROPERLY trashy, slu*ty women that are so much of a fixture in society....the ones who not only allow themselves to be sexually objectified, but WELCOME it. I've been accused way too many times of being 'anti-feminist' by other women, for insisting that women should always look, and behave to some degree like ladies, and my constant whining about how much I wish I were living in the 1920s or 1940s as opposed to now, but these same women will either say NOTHING about self-objectifying sluts, or even worse, behave that way themselves. For whatever reason, it completely eludes most people that accepting and participating in that sort of objectification of women is as bad, if not WORSE for promoting women's equality, than insisting that a woman's place is in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.

I could keep ranting about this here, but I think I've made my point....I'll probably end up writing a blog about this, though, sometime in the not-too-distant future....

It's mostly because women let their emotions run their lives. and sweet jesus, women get emotional over the smallest things. if the toilet paper roll is empty or if we don't have romantic thoughts every 5 minutes, its like Germany just invaded Poland all over again.

I too hate the media and other outlets for making it the way it is for women. you see it on TV everyday, women HAVE to be 100lbs, huge boobs, knockout beautiful, and if you aren't, then you're an ugly hag. and as far as "not taken seriously as men's intellectual equals" i think this has more to do with alot of guys just can't see women as more than Maids with Vaginas.
"you did really well at work today? you cured Cancer? that's great, now get your ass back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich. chop-chop." some men are like that. /shrug. and some women are crazy. lol. it all balances out.

Considering your viewpoints, i have a hard time understanding why you insist that women should 'look and behave to some degree like ladies'. What about those of us that don't feel like ladies on the inside? Your opinion on this is exclusive. A bit paradoxical in my opinion.

This could also apply to 'trashy' looking women. What's wrong with looking, and feeling trashy? I like how trashy women look, myself. What do you find so disturbing about it? I don't see how it degrades women or hinders women's equality. I would think the opposite, in the sense that women should be allowed to express themselves in whatever way they feel comfortable, and feel safe doing it.

Same goes for men. Men who feel feminine for instance.

I am so with you! And I love the Dorothy Parker reference! That's me! Love Sarah Silverman, the AbFab "ladies", and I'm sure I'll think of a lot more raunchy, girly, grrrrrrls.

I will have to write a lot more - I have a 5 year old grilling me about some kids' movie and I can't listen and think at the same time.

I have this unfortunate memory that haunts me to this day. I drove 250 miles to a friends house to watch the Obama inauguration. I am a newsie geek - so I just wanted to chill and watch CNN and get trashed.

But no - my friend - who is one of my oldest and best friends - kept flipping to E! and Bravo to watch The Girls Next Door and Housewives of Orange County. I finally had a total melt-down daying, "I didn't think anyone watched this s**t - let alone women!! !"

I swear - I thought my friend had more self-respect.

More on the topic later...

I like your point of view. I used to equate "trashy" with disturbing, but now I don't.

intellect plus trashy slu*ty female = ideal woman for me. (with a tad of decorum thrown in for good measure.)


I have been a trashy, slu*ty sex-working female in my past.
no longer,however.

Give me a junkyard over a high-brow antiques shop any day.


the more animal the better.

and i like f*****g on all fours...and swearing as i come. preferably in public, with voyeurs watching.

Last edited by millie on 07 Apr 2009, 4:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.

When men are really slu*ty, it's considered ok, but when women do the same they are considered anti-feminist. What's THAT all about, huh? Shouldn't feminism be about choice?

I used to hate those physically perfect barbie doll women, who virtually shove their assets in your face.

I now wonder if my issues with women who go out wearing virtually nothing were more to do with my massive self hatred, some unpleasant events that happened to me and general feelings of inadequacy as a female.

Certainly I don't have any moral highground, so these days it's more an envy issue as age wise, by the standards on WP i'm only fit to be boiled up for glue

Pardon a male intrusion, but I have to agree with the OPs sentiments. I much prefer a woman with a well-developed intellect to one that qualifies as "properly trashy."

Then again, my idea of a good date sometimes consists of sitting on the same piece of furniture reading novels...

In what way is another woman's behavior or demeanor a reflection on you, or for that matter, your entire gender?

As a male I am not defined by macho douchebags, or self-serving, suited corporate pricks . I am Southern, but not racist, redneck, nor hillbilly.

Live and let live. Some of my best friends have been wanton sluts. At least they're honest about who and what they are. And I respect their ability to own their own lives and bodies and remain entirely unconcerned with what society thinks of them. Go, girls!

well... the little red panda has nothing on. (animal is good.)

and glue ain't so bad.

i like your standards.

as for barbie girls - i have always felt like my brain is part male and i thoroughly enjoy the look and feel of theose barbie babes.
I am ageing too, so i don't get "out and about" much anymore, and my sensory issues now that i am clean and sober this past 11 years, play havoc with my engaging with others (no sedation = sensory horrors.) My life is reduced to fantasy, some f*****g and object fetish and partialism.

Putting all that aside, i say we run around with some rabble-rousing and reduce the political correctness to smtihereens.
We could douse all and sundry in sticky glue.
Could be quite a trashy experience.

^

yes, I drank and snorted nearly a decade away

I like glue, wallpaper paste made with warm water =

I'm waiting till I get really old, and will start going out in hotpants

How a woman dresses has no correlation with her intellect.

Double post.

People should be able to dress how they want. I do not see feminism as yet another excuse to tell female-kind how "nice ladies" ought to dress/act/what-not. I also do not see that feminism was intended to cause every woman to pre-consider her every act "as a female, representing female kind", and conduct (and dress) themselves accordingly.

Sometimes I think some people construe feminism as a means by which we sentence those born female, to a lifetime of being "role models" both for other females, and for males to take cues from in how they treat/conceive of all female-kind.

No one trots out masculinism as a reason why men ought not act trashy. Again it is the notion that there are people, and females. People are judged as individuals, but females are role-models and represented by and representative of each other.

When will feminism succeed to the point where females are people who happen to be female, just as males are people who happen to be males, and representative only of themselves rather than some gender trope?

While I agree that everyone has a right to dress and act however they'd like - I PREFER the OP's view. I suppose you either get it, or you don't. I don't think she (or I) expect or want the world to conform to our view - but then, they won't know what they're missing!

I love embracing my girly side - love the clothes, the make-up, the chick films, the handbags, the pretty smells, the fuzzy sweaters, the sparkly blue nailpolish...

But besides my appearance and the occassional crying at movies, I am all tomboy.

I can throw a curveball, catch a trout, shoot pool, chug a beer, light a bottle rocket, take apart and reassemble an engine, play darts, sling a bag of compost, build a lego castle, fix a dishwasher, stand up to bullies...

Yet...

I enjoy being a girl!