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24 Oct 2006, 10:31 pm

I've always been attracted to men who are intelligent too. But in regards to a serious relationship, I do want a man who has a job/career, his own money, and so forth. I want to be with a man, not a child, in other words. Not because I want to mooch off of him, but because I'm fed up with losers who mooch off of me and do nothing with lives but whine, make excuses, b***h and blame everyone else for their own problems.

But intelligence is a must if a guy's going to keep my interest. If he's not intelligent, I cannot find him attractive. Period. I'm very self-possessed and won't waste my time with someone who doesn't have the cerebral goods. And since I'm ane xtrememly cerrebral person, and I have AS, I need that mental stimulation to keep me engages. Otherwise i simply withdraw into my inner world and am oblivious to the guy.

I'm highly critical of how a man talks. It the thing I'm most critical of in a man by far. It's OK if he's an awkward speaker. But crudeness, thoughtlessness, bad logic, arrogance, or immaturity are all serious turn-offs. It wouldn't matter if the guy had a high IQ score if he spoke in such a manner - how he speaks would demonstrate to me that even though he had raw intelligence, he's not smart enough to now how to use, so it's essentially wasted on him.



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27 Oct 2006, 7:14 pm

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Is it just me? Or are a lot of the guys (not all just more than average) in these forums Misogynists?


It's not misogony when it's the truth.

The biggest disapointment I've had in my 30 years on earth is women. I don't mean my successes or failures with women. I mean that women didn't meet even my low-end expectations of them.

I was raised in a moderatly feminist household to believe that women were the equals to men. That women could possess the same heights of intellect and virtue that men can. Unles you've been through the process of "unplugging" from the matriarcy yourself, you can't imagine how much pain it brings you when you realize that Women Will Never Be Who You Want Them To Be. That you have been lied to by society as a whole. See this post as a reference: http://awomanagainstfeminism.blogspot.c ... t-men.html

It is only now, with a tremendous amount of pain and sorrow that I must accept that the misgogonysts of old were right: women are the inferior sex. Don't listen to the siren's call when one says "I'm different from all the rest." Because she's not. The core of woman is deception. She lies to you and she lies to herself most of all. The best liar is the one who believes the lies.

There is plenty more that should be said so that the AS men here can start to come to terms with the truth about women, but that would take a while and this is depressing enough as it is.



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27 Oct 2006, 11:32 pm

It sounds like someone here has been burnt bad. Not all women are liars and queens of deception.



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28 Oct 2006, 1:51 am

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Geez, how did I miss this discussion??Dicks and intelligence and men and women. For the record, there are shallow men and shallow women. There are also intelligent men and women. What I had to put up with as I grew up, men didn't like women who were intelligent or who could beat them at something, say pool or darts. To me, it seemed as they took it as some sort of pseudo emasculation. So....do I mask the smarts to attract men?
Another thing. It's not about big or little dicks. Its how you use the thing. Why do men always think women want the big dicks??Sure, they are nice. But its not what we want all the time.
But what caught my attention was that women say they want intelligent men but they really don't mean it. I have ALWAYS been attracted to intelligent men. It's in the eyes. It shows. It's in how men speak, what they say, what they know. If a man is well read, that tells me a lot about a guy. I wish men would not make blanket statements about how women want money, looks, etc. All women are not the same just like all men are not the same. If I think of more to say, I will post again. Meanwhile, anyone want to discuss?

I wish I could read people well enough to spot intelligence like that. For now, I just listen carefully to what is being said.

I have experienced the pseudo emasculation that you speak of 2nd hand. It often occurs when I am playing against a man and I am winning the video game (or cards, pool, etc.). A few times their subsequent anger due to their game loss has been so bad I have to ask, "What's your problem, exactly?" But watch the man's behaviour when losing to another man, and they're more complacent with their loss. Of course I cannot speak for the behaviours of all men, but a few I have encountered and played a game with have behaved like this. Most men I have played with do not act this way.

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It is only now, with a tremendous amount of pain and sorrow that I must accept that the misgogonysts of old were right...

Something tells me "a tremendous amount of pain and sorrow" inflicted by certain women caused you to reach this conclusion. Let's call it woman's intuition. :o



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29 Oct 2006, 2:17 am

i'm sorry if i offended anyone ever.. i'm a bad person... *spanks myself*


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29 Oct 2006, 2:20 am

I'm more jealous of women, than hateful. I just envy how much easier their lives are compared to ours, and how society perpetuates this.


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29 Oct 2006, 2:27 am

MishLuvsHer2Boys wrote:
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Why? He's right. I know that people, and especially women, don't give a damn for my IQ or that I can read Shakespeare unabridged or middle age German poems.


Guess you're failing to meet the right women that do enjoy an intelligent male that likes medieval poetry and Shakespeare. I'd rather a man with intelligence, good sense of humor and show much more interest in a woman that just her body and being all superficial about the way a woman's looks. There's a few of us out there that do appreciate intellectual men still. Just got to keep looking. Of course, intelligence is only one facet of a person and it doesn't always make the person the best gift to the human race. Even the most intelligent people can act pretty dumb at times in some areas of life. This I know from experience over my lifetime. I may be smart but still at times I fall on my face relating to others. :)


what i learned in life is to just marry a woman with big boobs... in any case your going to get a big mess of unpredictable hormones... said big mess with a above average intelligence is a dangerous combination!


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11 Nov 2006, 12:39 am

Whats with the anti-woman crap?

Women are not more hormonal, or inbalanced, or anything... You've obviously had some bad experiences. I don't know what sort of experiences, but someones taught you that all women are the same, which shows either ignorance or loathing.

Don't tell me I've been brainwashed, I've had over 7 relationships so I know what I'm talking about.

All intelligence is intelligence.

Believe it or not, men can be just as crazy, just as hormonally charged...

Please stop it with the "women are crazy and hormonal" and "get a stupid one" bullsh*t.

In my experience I'm not even vaguely interested in a woman unless she can keep up with me mentally at least in some respects...

It offends the very essence of why we're here, to speak freely and openly to each other.


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11 Nov 2006, 10:16 am

wiggerbeater wrote:
I'm more jealous of women, than hateful. I just envy how much easier their lives are compared to ours, and how society perpetuates this.


I'm a woman and this is news to me. It never occured to me when I was checking out the sexual assualt statisitcs when I was searching for colleges to go to that life was so much easier for us. It never occured to me when investigators found the bodies of several young women in a stretch of woods when they were just trying to find one dead woman. I bet it never occured to pregnant women who can't even put out a sign in front of their yard welcoming a new child in this world without worrying about some crazy b***h stabbing her and stealing her baby. I don't think it occured to several women who have broken up with men and ended up lit on fire by their ex-boyfriends. God I hate it when people say that women have it so much easier. I see this line dropped again, the restraints are off. I will introduce you whiny b*****s(whiny b*****s only refers to the guys stupid enough to believe women have it easy) to the world of blood clots.



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11 Nov 2006, 11:09 am

*thumbs up*


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11 Nov 2006, 11:55 am

I haven't been on the mens board so it can't comment on that.
However is it just me or does anyone else feel like the womens board is mostly about attacking and stereotyping woman?



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11 Nov 2006, 4:05 pm

I am liking the mens board better than the womans board, but alas, cannot take part in the mens 'cause I'm a woman. Still like reading theirs over there, though.....



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11 Nov 2006, 4:43 pm

?? Of course you can post in the mens forum, it seems that we do it freely here. I think the rule should be that only men can start topics in the mens forum, but then women can post freely in it, but only if the topic poster ok's this. And visa versa. Anyone agree? The rules need to be made clear on this.



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11 Nov 2006, 5:16 pm

MelancholyBunny wrote:
I haven't been on the mens board so it can't comment on that.
However is it just me or does anyone else feel like the womens board is mostly about attacking and stereotyping woman?


well the women are doing a bang up job of stereotyping themselves by being so viscious


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12 Nov 2006, 6:01 pm

Mitch8817 wrote:
?? Of course you can post in the mens forum, it seems that we do it freely here. I think the rule should be that only men can start topics in the mens forum, but then women can post freely in it, but only if the topic poster ok's this. And visa versa. Anyone agree? The rules need to be made clear on this.


I agree...

Or possibly what was said in the rules sticky by Xuincherguixe:


"I think men should be allowed on here, but the ones that say idiotic things should be prohibited from commenting.

I mean something where they're locked out code wise.


Only way something like that could work."

And the other way around for the mens forums.


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12 Nov 2006, 7:47 pm

Lot of interesting viewpoints in this thread.
Not only have I seen quite a bit of misogyny, there's been just as much misandrony to balance it. From both sides, mind you.

Two comments that I personally take exception to are
a) (and I'm paraphrasing, so let's not get pissy if it's not an exact quote) if men don't get sex, they get depressed and snap... poor men. BS. Yes, not getting laid for years on end can be/is depressing, but to pawn that off as an excuse/justification for rape?
Bull. s**t. Learn to control yourself. There is NO justification for rape. Ever. I don't care if 'her mouth said no but her eyes said yes', I don't care if 'she was askin' fer it'. If she says no, that's it. And the same goes for men. (Yes, men can be raped/sexually assaulted). If he says 'no', stop.
b) women have it easy. What an utter crock of crap. Sorce nailed it. You know what one of my biggest fears is? That my daughter, this amazingly bright, intelligent, empathic, fun girl will someday find out firsthand that some men can be utter pricks who not only don't understand that 'no means no', but would barely be aware that she's speaking in the first place (and even if they were, they wouldn't care because they all know women have no brains), and that that experience may scar her for life. Hell, we're already starting to see it insofar as some of her male friends. "Why do they keep talking to my boobs? I don't get it."
I also see the flip side of that and the mental generalisations that led to that thought...stuff that's bugged me (minorly) over the years... like the fact that womens clothing options (in the western world, granted) are far more diverse than mens. PLUS, you can wear men's clothing and generally look damned sexy doing so. Men? Not so much. If I try to wear my wife's blouse and a skirt, I can guarantee you I'll be labelled as a transvestite (which would be technically correct, but it's more the connotations that make it a 'bad thing') or, for those of a lesser vocabulary, a fa***t. Neither could be further from the truth, but hey, why let that get in our way.


Personally, I'm neither misogynistic nor misandronystic. I'm a misanthrope. Regardless of the genitalia, we're all human and, very sorry, but the vast majority of humanity pisses me off. Gender is irrelevant. Stupidity is universal.
The problem I see here is that there are way too many generalisations being accepted as the de facto 'way things are' when that's hardly a reflection of reality. Yes, there ARE a lot of asinine men with the cranial capacity of a walnut, just as there are many women who desire only the baboon with the biggest stash of fruit. But there are far more people who just want to be loved and understood and don't understand why, when they see the baboons getting the babe, it's not working for them.

I think I lost my train of thought... screw it... beat each others brains out over perceived slights. Exemplify the species. Knock yourselves out. I'm gonna go play Guild Wars.