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10 Dec 2012, 10:37 am

No doctor is going to remove a healthy organ via major surgery, it's against the Hippocratic Oath.



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10 Dec 2012, 2:05 pm

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^how strange. Is there a mechanism of action suggested for it? basically it's glass, in pieces small enough to make it a powder.


No it's not glass. It's fossilised remains of single-cell organisms. It has a very high silica content. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of when you say "glass."

I don't know why it works, but it does. It really works. It is definitely not a placebo effect. It genuinely works.

I don't really care how or why it works as long as it takes away my misery, and has no harmful effects. Being a food supplement and not a "medicine" as such means it is an infinitely preferable alternative to taking the pill. For me, at least. I have never taken artificial hormones and hopefully I never will.

OP, hope you manage to get a solution sorted out and feel more comfortable soon.



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10 Dec 2012, 4:18 pm

Plodder wrote:
LKL wrote:
^how strange. Is there a mechanism of action suggested for it? basically it's glass, in pieces small enough to make it a powder.


No it's not glass. It's fossilised remains of single-cell organisms. It has a very high silica content. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of when you say "glass."

I don't know why it works, but it does. It really works. It is definitely not a placebo effect. It genuinely works.

I don't really care how or why it works as long as it takes away my misery, and has no harmful effects. Being a food supplement and not a "medicine" as such means it is an infinitely preferable alternative to taking the pill. For me, at least. I have never taken artificial hormones and hopefully I never will.

OP, hope you manage to get a solution sorted out and feel more comfortable soon.
I know what it is- I'm a biologist. :D
They are, literally, glass - glass is silica, silica is glass, and therefore silicaceous earth made from diatoms is powderey glass. You see diatom's shells described in biology books as "glass" all the time.

Food supplements are not necessarily better for you than prescribed medicine; they're basically unregulated, so a manufacturer can stick a label on almost anything that hasn't been proven dangerous, sometimes just because it hasn't been studied yet.
Diatomaceous earth might be bad for someone who has gastrointestinal issues like reactive bowel disease (like my mother), because it's going to act as roughage and scrape up the lining of the gut to some degree. Some amount of carbohydrate roughage is good for most people, but I don't know how diatomaceous earth compares in its effects.

I could see where it would have an effect on diarrhea, but it doesn't make sense to me that it would affect your periods, either in pain, duration, or amount of blood loss. If it works for you, though...



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10 Dec 2012, 10:08 pm

No actually it's very, very GOOD for bowel issues, whether constipation or diarrhea. That's the #1 reason people take it. But it works very well at reducing period pain, which is why I was suggesting it to the OP. It's not just my own experience; loads of people report the same thing. The only thing to be cautious of is that it lowers blood pressure - which, if you have high blood pressure, is not a bad thing, but if your blood pressure is already low, you would need to watch out.

As for "scraping" the lining of the gut - well, it's basically like very soft mud. There is nothing to "scrape."The granules are so tiny that they only have a very, very slight exfoliant effect. If you're worried about your gut being "scraped" I'd be more worried about eating jagged things like nuts or seeds.



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11 Dec 2012, 12:08 am

Diatoms are large enough to mechanically effect the microvilli of the small intestine.
It doesn't make sense that it would lower blood pressure, or menstrual pain, either.
I can't find any science-based data on the subject (lots of stuff on sketchy alt-med sites), but I appreciate you bringing it up and I know to keep an ear out for it now.



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11 Dec 2012, 12:25 pm

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I'm 20 I want a hysterectomy (uterus and cervix removed only) to get rid of my periods forever, I hate them I dont want children I won't change my mind, if I have another period I will kill myself, I want my uterus out and I need to convince a doctor that my periods bother me that much, I've tried all the other options to get rid of periods they don't work 100% which isn't good enough and the implanon is bad for me I've been bleeding a whole month, help, someone tell me I'm justified in this, don't say I need to see a therapist or all that being a woman is great, I don't think it is and I'd rather be a little girl, periods make me depressed and anxious and nauseous



I would want to get one too. I'm in my early 30s. I don't want children either. I don't want any more periods either. I find men just have life so much easier. They don't get menstrual cramps and never have to deal with labor pains. :(


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11 Dec 2012, 1:55 pm

aspie_giraffe wrote:
I'm 20 I want a hysterectomy (uterus and cervix removed only) to get rid of my periods forever, I hate them I dont want children I won't change my mind, if I have another period I will kill myself, I want my uterus out and I need to convince a doctor that my periods bother me that much, I've tried all the other options to get rid of periods they don't work 100% which isn't good enough and the implanon is bad for me I've been bleeding a whole month, help, someone tell me I'm justified in this, don't say I need to see a therapist or all that being a woman is great, I don't think it is and I'd rather be a little girl, periods make me depressed and anxious and nauseous


So the question is how to convince a doctor to remove your female organs? That's been answered here already - no doctor will do this for period pain. So under what circumstances will they remove these organs? Well you don't want to give yourself cancer or otherwise put your life in danger. I wonder if you lied and told them that you wanted gender reassignment surgery, that they might do it? You'd have to put on a convincing act. Even a skilled neurotypical liar would have trouble pulling that off.

Seriously though, getting a hysterectomy is like suicide for your loins. It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem.



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11 Dec 2012, 5:51 pm

Not to chime in too often on female issues, but you should have yourself checked for something similar to Endomitriosis - growths around the uterus (and area) that cause terrible, painful periods. My ex-wife suffered those for a long time before we figured it out and had most of it removed successfully (resolving our infertility as well as >90% less pain!)



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12 Dec 2012, 5:29 am

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Not to chime in too often on female issues, but you should have yourself checked for something similar to Endomitriosis - growths around the uterus (and area) that cause terrible, painful periods. My ex-wife suffered those for a long time before we figured it out and had most of it removed successfully (resolving our infertility as well as >90% less pain!)
I agree. If periods are as bad as the OP is suggesting, then it probably is down to something like endometriosis (I have a diagnosis of this). Periods are not supposed to be so awful. If they are, there's likely to be something wrong. Endometriosis is very common, but under-diagnosed. I suffered for 15 years before I was taken seriously.


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12 Dec 2012, 9:49 am

aspie_giraffe wrote:
I'm 20 I want a hysterectomy (uterus and cervix removed only) to get rid of my periods forever, I hate them I dont want children I won't change my mind, if I have another period I will kill myself, I want my uterus out and I need to convince a doctor that my periods bother me that much, I've tried all the other options to get rid of periods they don't work 100% which isn't good enough and the implanon is bad for me I've been bleeding a whole month, help, someone tell me I'm justified in this, don't say I need to see a therapist or all that being a woman is great, I don't think it is and I'd rather be a little girl, periods make me depressed and anxious and nauseous


The reality is that you are very unlikely to find a doctor who will do a hysterectomy on a twenty year old childless women with heavy periods.
You'd do best to keep looking for a different solution - and perhaps also for that rare doctor. Just do not go to some quack.

Pity that the mirena had no effect for you - I have one and it does wonders for me. What problems did you have with it?

The only other thing that worked for me was having a baby. For five years after giving birth I had lighter, painless periods. Then they slowly got back to normal. (Which, as I later discovered, was not normal).

And indeed, get checked for endometriosis. Although that is not always treatable>

I will not tell you that it is great to be a woman. It's a bloody (literally) nuisance!



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12 Dec 2012, 10:50 am

Cinnamon wrote:
aspie_giraffe wrote:
I'm 20 I want a hysterectomy (uterus and cervix removed only) to get rid of my periods forever, I hate them I dont want children I won't change my mind, if I have another period I will kill myself, I want my uterus out and I need to convince a doctor that my periods bother me that much, I've tried all the other options to get rid of periods they don't work 100% which isn't good enough and the implanon is bad for me I've been bleeding a whole month, help, someone tell me I'm justified in this, don't say I need to see a therapist or all that being a woman is great, I don't think it is and I'd rather be a little girl, periods make me depressed and anxious and nauseous


The reality is that you are very unlikely to find a doctor who will do a hysterectomy on a twenty year old childless women with heavy periods.
You'd do best to keep looking for a different solution - and perhaps also for that rare doctor. Just do not go to some quack.

Pity that the mirena had no effect for you - I have one and it does wonders for me. What problems did you have with it?

The only other thing that worked for me was having a baby. For five years after giving birth I had lighter, painless periods. Then they slowly got back to normal. (Which, as I later discovered, was not normal).

And indeed, get checked for endometriosis. Although that is not always treatable>

I will not tell you that it is great to be a woman. It's a bloody (literally) nuisance!


Men have it so easy, right? :) It's true! No periods and cramps to deal with and NO labor pains.


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12 Dec 2012, 9:48 pm

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Men have it so easy, right? :) It's true! No periods and cramps to deal with and NO labor pains.

be glad you lack a prostate.



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20 Dec 2012, 9:22 am

You may be able to reduce your periods by eating differently. I know you say you tried everything, but have you? Eating low carb/no carb? Eliminating soy? Eating paleo? Have you checked out this blog?: http://www.paleoforwomen.com/ She talks about PCOS a lot and it might be useful.

I used to want everything taken out, because my periods were so painful, but that was a long time ago. (Before ibuprofen, even!) I no longer have the cramps, and am currently working on the mind-body connection. And the diet.

I started thinking about wanting a child in my late 30s. Some of us are late bloomers. (Still working on who to have a child with, though.)



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20 Dec 2012, 9:40 am

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You may be able to reduce your periods by eating differently. I know you say you tried everything, but have you? Eating low carb/no carb? Eliminating soy? Eating paleo? Have you checked out this blog?: http://www.paleoforwomen.com/ She talks about PCOS a lot and it might be useful.
I agree. This is the single most important thing in dealing with problematic periods. I've been on a health kick and eating much less carbs than normal. I'm usually quite a healthy eater anyway and do eat what dieticians would recommend as a healthy diet, for most people. But, I've found that I always have to go to extremes to improve my symptoms and need to go on what others would call 'faddy' diets, e.g. the candida elimination diet. Reducing wheat and dairy really helps me and I've been opting for less carbs and more nuts/seeds. I'm on day 4 of my period and it has been normal (no clots or flooding), which is highly unusual for me.


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20 Dec 2012, 9:36 pm

another thing to ask your doctor about:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001913/



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13 Feb 2013, 2:13 am

I was lucky as for ages depo stopped the problems of periods, acne and pms. Now I'm mid 40s and they said yes to a hysterectomy after bleeding for 2 months. My suggestion is psychologists or psychiatrists. Which ever one is going to be able to say look this is affecting her mental health so give her a hysterectomy. Did you try depo?