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I'm not so sure ... I have seen changes in tone on this site over time. There was a time a while back when a block of feminists went way over-the-top. I believe we are still in a reactionary stage to this. The pendulum swings.

It would depend of course on the content of such a mission statement. It is not going to attract support from large numbers of the women membership if it is way over the top. You would have to be very clear and specific about what it is that needs to change. You could say that the proposal to address the blatant sexism here is more of a WP issue than a feminist issue. It's about making WP a safer place. For everyone, men and women.

Well if you start a thread, I think you should call it The Whipping Girl List.

I don't get that, not sure what you are meaning by it.

It's a reference to the whipping boy. Back in English history the kings weren't allowed to be disciplined when they were naughty, so they designated a commoner as "the whipping boy," who would take the beating in his stead. It's similar to your pecking order analogy as one person is designated to suffer in the stead of another.

Thank you for clarifying that. Reading your explanation I thought immediately of the origin of "scapegoat". This comes from an historic Hebrew tradition, where a living goat was designated as the carrier of responsibility for others' sins and cast out or killed so that the sin could be removed from the people themselves (if memory serves me correctly). Actually I will doublecheck that to see if I have explained it accurately.

Yes, more or less, according to this encyclopaedia on the topic of the scapegoat and scapegoating behaviours:
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Scapegoat

No, that's not what I said. I've been ignoring your posts since you started systematically distorting everything I say to make me look as bad as possible and resorting to sarcasm when I try to defend myself. I'd really appreciate it if you likewise ignored my posts. I don't have anything to discuss with you anymore, so please leave me alone and stop referring to me. If you don't, I'll have to ask the moderators to intervene.

You don't have to answer of course but I am worried about you. Are you so very unhappy in your life as to really not understand how how these kinds of statements, in response to a comment about someone or a group suffering, get you in trouble with others? I am asking seriously not sarcastically.

I'm not sure if you want me to respond to this post. But I can assure you I have not set out on a vendetta against you and have no interest in your looking good or bad.

It's too late to edit but I've read posts by you Spiderpig about how you've been treated badly and deserve it and it's ok that's happened, and the problem is that it not only causes suffering, it makes it seem like this is acceptable, and to many, it is not.

If you post outside The Haven that you deserve to suffer and even that you feel we all do, it's, well, a pretty negative thing to do. You did not deserve to be told this stuff and I know you say it to anyone but it doesn't seem like that is making it not offend people.

Many people have told you we regret what you have been through and it wasn't right, have you considered this might be true?

I googled "education lowers birth rates" and found some evidence that developing human potential more fully (in women at least) lowers the fertility rate, thus contributing to a solution to overcrowding.

Here are a couple of the links:
Education Leads to Lower Fertility and Increased Prosperity
http://www.earth-policy.org/data_highli ... ghlights13

Why does Education Lead to Lower Fertility?
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/do ... 1&type=pdf

Also, what is Wrong Planet, if it is not a forum dedicated to the development of human potential among the neurodiverse? Am I in the wrong place yet again?

I was taught how to cook, sing, dance, play instruments, be a hostess, speak properly, smile, have impeccable manners... but, my male relations had the 'traditional mammy' experience, most of them left home knowing how to boil an egg, toast bread and open a tin of beans.

No one could teach me how to interact with peers though, I did want to be included, but I also remember being content to wander by myself through the green areas around the school. I have flopped socially more times than I can remember, but I can cook and bake and smile and engage in light conversation.

Sigh, a male here, again, and I'll explain why in a second, but first: I like the idea of the females making some sort of document to take to the mods for changes they'd like to see. I have one suggestion, the women's issue section should probably only be viewable by members that have chosen gender as female on their profile page. This is supposed to be your section of the site, yet it's opened up for the prying eyes of the world to see-- I myself got to this thread just clicking through the topics in my "posts since last visit" page. There's no need for that to happen. I think just knowing there's a large group of males creeping through the women's section would actually stifle opinion, because in the back of their mind every female here knows there's some males they may interact with on the site that are reading.

As for the misogyny on the site, I don't know what to tell you except it's an up-hill battle. Truth is most of the male autistics here have a hard time with women and there's really no solution for them so they're bitter and want to inflict their pain on someone else. Women, being the source (not the cause) of their pain, become the most satisfying target. It's a very animal way of thinking, but alas, that's still where we're at on evolutionary terms. I have a solution that may be pleasing, but it's just a mirage, and that would be a men's discussion section itself with the same restrictions I mentioned earlier for the women's discussion. Ban misogynistic things from every forum but that one-- they still get their voice and you don't need to hear it. It won't solve misogyny, it would merely brush it under the carpet but that's kind of the point-- if they only complain among themselves they'll get bored and give up because what they really want is a reaction.

Anyhow, hope the women here figure out some approach that bears fruit because I'm pretty sick of it being a constant issue that derails threads, raises tensions, and leaves everyone here with bad blood. Good luck.

You can't set your gender on WP. And if they do that there should also be a man's only section, shouldn't there?

First off, although I am certainly unhappy, I don't see any connection between this and not understanding how some comments get me in trouble.

Secondly, I'm terrible at estimating how likely any comment is to get me in trouble. The safest option is not to speak at all, and, surely enough, it's what I've learned to do in real life, as much as I long for the opportunities to get to know someone I might be missing out on this way. I thought I could take the liberty on these forums to ask a question about something that seems to be taken for granted, which wasn't meant as an attack to anybody, but maybe I was wrong. The main reason I'm interested in what I brought up is that any potential I may have had is all but entirely going to waste, too. I had a lot of arguments with my parents, trying to agree with them on a plan to make the best possible use of the remaining years I'd take to stop depending on them, to no avail, and now it's obvious I was very selfish and unappreciative with them. Now I might have a chance to do something of what I yearned to do when I was younger---in fact, I probably need to do it if I want to be genuinely employable one day without mooching off the system---but I've long lost the habit of directing my energy towards my real interests and feel guilty for any attempt to do so, because I don't feel worthy of it. It's obvious the world doesn't need me to realize any not-yet-squandered potential I may have left. Anything I can do, someone much younger (hence with much more time left to improve the world and yield returns for the investment the world made on them), smarter, much better qualified and with an astronomically better work ethic can do better. I suppose this reasoning could be applied to anyone the world doesn't have a very good reason to invest on.

You're right, I thought there used to be a way to enter gender but I could be wrong. That being said, add that to my list, add a gender selection and the option to hide it from public viewing. It's as simple as two database columns and a few lines of code.

My second paragraph I mentioned a man's section-- that's where they can stuff all the misogynistic crap that floods the love and dating section.