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06 Apr 2008, 3:21 pm

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I've been noticing this too lately in a few threads. I find a good number of posts and responses where men blame women for their problems because they can't get a date and not to mention degrading jokes. I usually don't respond in those posts because they already have it figured out. I tried responding once politely and then all I could get was a "You don't understand, you have it easy because you're a girl." It's starting to really irk me.


I agree with you this is just as bad. I might have done such a thing as well (to think of something as evil does not mean one doesn't do it), if so please tell me.
I am aware I was reacting in the womens section and did not want to bring it to a point this far. I even agree with the TS it is a bad thing if this happens. But still I prefer to see a person as an individual, man or woman.



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06 Apr 2008, 4:09 pm

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But not so much compassion for those that bind themselves and cry about it. Your average woman that marries of her own accord is not a slave. In any way.


Before anyone misconstrues my meaning let me clarify with an example. My mother was not a slave. She was never forced or coerced into cleaning up. But she would b***h and whine about it and act like she had it so hard. My dad would tell her to stop working, don't clean or do anything, sit down and he'd take care of it in a minute, but she'd get all hysterical and say that it had to be done. She wouldn't wait for my dad to get to it later, she wanted it done "NOW!".

My dad did not bind her. She was not a slave. She bond herself and cried about it.

I didn't feel sorry for her and I won't feel sorry for anyone doing something that they don't have to do and making out like they are a slave and getting all bent out of shape and hysterical about it. She still does this sort of thing with my sister and nieces, helps them out and then b*****s about it, it makes me sick.


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06 Apr 2008, 4:55 pm

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holly cow, the reactions here amaze me. Why are you men getting so defensive? On average, women wipe your asses, cook your meals, wash your clothes, they sacrifice their personal happiness so that you could have a great career. Why is that making you angry? The statistics are the AVERAGE--meaning that yes, there are exceptions out there. If anything, you should show some compassion for the average woman who spends her entire adult life as a slave.


uh, the 50's called. they want you back.



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06 Apr 2008, 5:02 pm

Uh, I rest my case.


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06 Apr 2008, 5:08 pm

This is definiely true. My father is a filthy slob and he causes endless work for my mother. it isn't that he forces her to work; just that if she didn't work tirelessly to clean up after him the house would be a pigstye. If you don't believe me, I could take photographs of the house before and after he has been left with the house to himself when she goes on holiday. You would see then that it looks like a rat's nest.

All men are filthy slobs. All they do is sit around all day w*king. If they could suck their own cocks they would never leave their beds.

And they are soooo judgemental! I like, wanted to go out with this guy I just met, and he totally said no, he rejected me just because I'm an aspie I hate men they all suck, they are prejudiced and they are stupid. They have man-cooties.

How do you like it? Huh? HUH?


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06 Apr 2008, 5:20 pm

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This is definiely true. My father is a filthy slob and he causes endless work for my mother. it isn't that he forces her to work; just that if she didn't work tirelessly to clean up after him the house would be a pigstye. If you don't believe me, I could take photographs of the house before and after he has been left with the house to himself when she goes on holiday. You would see then that it looks like a rat's nest.

All men are filthy slobs. All they do is sit around all day w*king. If they could suck their own cocks they would never leave their beds.

And they are soooo judgemental! I like, wanted to go out with this guy I just met, and he totally said no, he rejected me just because I'm an aspie I hate men they all suck, they are prejudiced and they are stupid. They have man-cooties.

How do you like it? Huh? HUH?


LOL :D

we are both slobs here btw. That is why the work is equal.



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07 Apr 2008, 12:03 am

To some extent yes, I agree. However, look at my house right now, and well, my husband's stuff is mostly in it's right place.

By the way, I sent him this last night (he's out of town and I'm supposed to be cleaning/packing) and his response was
"get off that computer and get back to cleaning and packing"

HAHAHA...I could've taken it literrally but I took it as a joke...or maybe it wasn't??? 8O



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07 Apr 2008, 5:55 am

Aridarr wrote:
This is definiely true. My father is a filthy slob and he causes endless work for my mother. it isn't that he forces her to work; just that if she didn't work tirelessly to clean up after him the house would be a pigstye. If you don't believe me, I could take photographs of the house before and after he has been left with the house to himself when she goes on holiday. You would see then that it looks like a rat's nest.

All men are filthy slobs. All they do is sit around all day w*king. If they could suck their own cocks they would never leave their beds.

And they are soooo judgemental! I like, wanted to go out with this guy I just met, and he totally said no, he rejected me just because I'm an aspie I hate men they all suck, they are prejudiced and they are stupid. They have man-cooties.

How do you like it? Huh? HUH?


Hey be nice!

Come on you love us underneath. Anyway when we mess up the house, we trash it in a cute and adorable way. :bounce:

I thought that post showed we are getting better at housework and woman are turning into slobs. :? us men are very heroic :flower:



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07 Apr 2008, 10:41 am

lonelyLady wrote:
holly cow, the reactions here amaze me. Why are you men getting so defensive? On average, women wipe your asses, cook your meals, wash your clothes, they sacrifice their personal happiness so that you could have a great career. Why is that making you angry? The statistics are the AVERAGE--meaning that yes, there are exceptions out there. If anything, you should show some compassion for the average woman who spends her entire adult life as a slave.



I think what really is starting to irritate me is the general attitude among SOME women here and of today's (young)women in general that Men OWE them something simply because they haappen to be female. I believe MissConstrue asked me what I have against feminists and for all of you here is my answer: what I have against feminists is that They have a sense of entitlement! To me, contemporary(3rd wave) feminism really strikes me as incredibly narcissistic and self-indulgent. American women talk about "having it all" which means a career AND a family. If you choose to have it all you really have no cause to complain about the fact that there's housework to do. NO ONE makes you get married and stay at home to care for the house and take care of the kids. Thats a personal choice. So if you make that choice and you're stuck-it AINT MENS FAULT!
Why do women think that they get to blame men for everything? Including the mistakes that THEY make?
If marriage is slavery then just Dont get married! :wink:



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07 Apr 2008, 11:13 am

I try to help out around the house, vacuuming and fixing stuff, I don't do dishes, because I get rashes from dish soap, but I do help with drying



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07 Apr 2008, 12:51 pm

Aridarr wrote:
This is definiely true. My father is a filthy slob and he causes endless work for my mother. it isn't that he forces her to work; just that if she didn't work tirelessly to clean up after him the house would be a pigstye. If you don't believe me, I could take photographs of the house before and after he has been left with the house to himself when she goes on holiday. You would see then that it looks like a rat's nest.All men are filthy slobs.


All they do is sit around all day w*king. If they could suck their own cocks they would never leave their beds.And they are soooo judgemental! I like, wanted to go out with this guy I just met, and he totally said no, he rejected me just because I'm an aspie I hate men they all suck, they are prejudiced and they are stupid. They have man-cooties.

How do you like it? Huh? HUH?


The second paragraph is definitely NOT true and I think you do realize that Aridarr. But the first paragraph, that actually is
true :lol: . Having seen girls dorms roosm versus guys dorm rooms I can honestly say that men are MUCH sloppier on average than women and that women do a MUCH Better job at maintaining their living spaces. But if ladies-if YOU wanna be the breadwinner there actually ARE men out there who will take care of the house for you. Just Dont expect them to do a very good job at it, because more often than not you'll probably come home to a pigstye :mrgreen:



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07 Apr 2008, 1:00 pm

I don't create any extra housework b/c no one cleans up after me so it's just piled up until I clean it :D


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07 Apr 2008, 4:01 pm

^ That pretty much my case.

:oops: Wait I keep my whole place clean. It's nice and spotless! :)



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07 Apr 2008, 8:23 pm

D1nk0 wrote:
Aridarr wrote:
This is definiely true. My father is a filthy slob and he causes endless work for my mother. it isn't that he forces her to work; just that if she didn't work tirelessly to clean up after him the house would be a pigstye. If you don't believe me, I could take photographs of the house before and after he has been left with the house to himself when she goes on holiday. You would see then that it looks like a rat's nest.All men are filthy slobs.


All they do is sit around all day w*king. If they could suck their own cocks they would never leave their beds.And they are soooo judgemental! I like, wanted to go out with this guy I just met, and he totally said no, he rejected me just because I'm an aspie I hate men they all suck, they are prejudiced and they are stupid. They have man-cooties.

How do you like it? Huh? HUH?


The second paragraph is definitely NOT true and I think you do realize that Aridarr. But the first paragraph, that actually is
true :lol: . Having seen girls dorms roosm versus guys dorm rooms I can honestly say that men are MUCH sloppier on average than women and that women do a MUCH Better job at maintaining their living spaces. But if ladies-if YOU wanna be the breadwinner there actually ARE men out there who will take care of the house for you. Just Dont expect them to do a very good job at it, because more often than not you'll probably come home to a pigstye :mrgreen:


Yes, the second paragraph was intentionally tongue-in-cheek, and saracastic with it.

Apart from the w*king observation. tee hee.


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07 Apr 2008, 9:25 pm

I never ever want to get married in the first place, so this doesn't bother me. Marriage is useless these days, and it's restrictive for both men and women.

Saying we're lazy slobs is one thing, but for a woman to say all men are dumb, sexually driven rapists is a different story. Sadly some radical feminists believe this. (Ironic since they're supposed to be supporting gender equality!)

Don't get me wrong though, I'm all for gender equality. It doesn't necessarily have to be a woman's job to be the housewife or to mind the kids.



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08 Apr 2008, 6:03 pm

Thank the gods I'm a lesbian! And a lesbo in love,at that! :D


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