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Ladies: Do you often get spoken to in public by creepy men?
Yes, way too often! 48%  48%  [ 78 ]
It's happened a few times. 37%  37%  [ 60 ]
Not really. 14%  14%  [ 23 ]
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07 Dec 2008, 3:55 pm

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I am one who DOES like women older than myself. But for the most part Im just not attracted to women beyond their 40s.
BTW, WHY is it that younger men are considered to be less desirable than older men, especially by women in their 20s(and 30s)?

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Well, seeing as you´re 27, it makes sense that you´re not attracted to women who are way older than yourself! I wouldn´t expect you to be attracted to a 50 year old, for example. When I was in my 20s, I generally did not find middle aged men attractive...in fact, I couldn´t imagine ever feeling that way. But as you age, your tastes change. Now that I am older, I am also attracted to men who are around my age. Even though I can still appreciate the beauty of a young "stud", there is something almost more interesting about an attractive man closer in age to me...it´s hard to explain, but it´s more than just sexual...although, the attraction is sexual too. Anyway, as I said, I can´t really explain it...but you will see when you get older, I think. So I won´t try to explain it, because I can´t.

As for younger men being less desirable, I´m not sure...do you mean, why are women in their 20s and 30s attracted to men who are way older? Or are you asking, why do women prefer going out with men who are a few years older? If you´re asking the 1st question, then I have no idea! I saw this documentary once about Hugh Hefner- (he´s what, in his 90s or something?)- and he had these 3 blonde floozies he was living with...(What were their names again? Bambi, Bimbo and somebody or other? I´m terrible with names...) Anyway, they looked like Barbie-triplets or something. They were trying to explain to the camera why he was sexually desirable, but I didn´t get it....I´m older than they are, but this Hugh Hefner guy is way too old for ME! Ugh...so I just don´t get that.

If you´re asking why women might prefer men who are a few years older, I can just speak from personal experience. I did notice, at some point, that when I dated men who were my age or younger, there were more problems with mind games, beating around the bush- (i.e., non straightforward, non literal speech), etc. So, I concluded that slightly older men were better, because I concluded they must be "more mature". However, I also had that problem with some older men, so I realize now that that may have just been an NT/AS type problem....or, just coincidence. Who knows....


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08 Dec 2008, 10:25 am

One creepy comment to me ..even though I laughed because I was stunned and it was funny. I had a guy sit on my lap at a bar and say slap me so I can get a hard on and win this bet! I laughed and told him to get in the wind. Later we did speak and we laughed about his bet that he lost...and he was ok for a drunken goof ball in a bar. Just a guy having fun trying to act like a creep he was not creepy though.



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09 Dec 2008, 1:49 am

Slap him where? 8O



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09 Dec 2008, 4:06 am

I was raped by a creepy guy once. He was bad. I was out one night and there was alot of people around but no one seen. He cornered up against a wall and i had a knife I showed and he backed off. Then when when i wasnt looking he kicked it out of my hand and he pushed me up against the wall, details deleted.
and some people was saying I was acting like a slut. I was 18 and
I used to go out alot and the POLICE!!~ they wouldnt charge him because I threatened him first with a knife.
Raarrhhhhh! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

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10 Dec 2008, 12:10 pm

Ladies: Carry a cellphone and know your environment topic

Keep your doors and windows locked. Of course, many women are assaulted by those they know. Bear this in mind. Have a buddy system if you must travel in darkness or in an unfamiliar place.

I have a dog. He barks. I have a sign in the window that says Beware of Dog.

Keep the cellphone handy in the house. If someone breaks in, go to the bathroom or under a bed or closet and call 911.

Take care entering your home. If anything looks different, get out and go to a safe place. Call for help.

Do not take shortcuts through isolated areas. I am even careful when I walk my dog.

Take care, everyone. Better to be safe than sorry.


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10 Dec 2008, 12:58 pm

LKL wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
I am one who DOES like women older than myself. But for the most part Im just not attracted to women beyond their 40s.
BTW, WHY is it that younger men are considered to be less desirable than older men, especially by women in their 20s(and 30s)?


Very young men still have an immortality complex brought about by testosterone poisoning. It's cheesy, but think 'Top Gun,' the movie: the first thing that happens is a pilot losing his immortality complex. To me, that's the beginning of sanity; the movie, however, was partly about a relationship with a woman who found that immortality complex attractive in another, younger pilot.

Some young men actually start out sane, but most of them seem to need close calls with death or maiming in order to get there. That doesn't happen until they're on their own for a while, which means that they have to be old enough to have been on their own for a while.

Not saying that women don't go through this too, but it does seem to be rarer.




Im suprised that immortality complex is a turn-off to women; I mean doesnt it make them seem like a *bad boy*? :?
Furthermore, I once read that a man's sex drive peaks around age 19 whereas a womans sex drive peaks around age 35.
Young men often have a lot of energy, and much of this energy can translate to better sexual performance than say a middle aged man. But here in the US, a woman who's at least in her 30s who dates younger men(more than 5 years younger) is colloquially referred to as a Cougar and there seems to be a negative stigma attached to this. As if an older woman chasing younger men is somehow desperate for sex-which DOES seem fitting given what I said about the female sex drive AND the fact that she has to compete with younger women. I have no doubt a lot of middle-aged women feel bitterly towards men because they are on the brink of losing their reproductive abilities AND men of the same age are out chasing young ladies.



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10 Dec 2008, 3:28 pm

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Im suprised that immortality complex is a turn-off to women; I mean doesnt it make them seem like a *bad boy*? :?
Furthermore, I once read that a man's sex drive peaks around age 19 whereas a womans sex drive peaks around age 35.
Young men often have a lot of energy, and much of this energy can translate to better sexual performance than say a middle aged man.


Uh...except a 19 year old may "get the job done quickly", if you know what I mean. An older man often has more "staying power"- thereby creating a better sexual experience for the woman.


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11 Dec 2008, 1:03 am

Haliphron wrote:
LKL wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
I am one who DOES like women older than myself. But for the most part Im just not attracted to women beyond their 40s.
BTW, WHY is it that younger men are considered to be less desirable than older men, especially by women in their 20s(and 30s)?


Very young men still have an immortality complex brought about by testosterone poisoning. It's cheesy, but think 'Top Gun,' the movie: the first thing that happens is a pilot losing his immortality complex. To me, that's the beginning of sanity; the movie, however, was partly about a relationship with a woman who found that immortality complex attractive in another, younger pilot.

Some young men actually start out sane, but most of them seem to need close calls with death or maiming in order to get there. That doesn't happen until they're on their own for a while, which means that they have to be old enough to have been on their own for a while.

Not saying that women don't go through this too, but it does seem to be rarer.


Im suprised that immortality complex is a turn-off to women; I mean doesnt it make them seem like a *bad boy*? :?
Furthermore, I once read that a man's sex drive peaks around age 19 whereas a womans sex drive peaks around age 35.
Young men often have a lot of energy, and much of this energy can translate to better sexual performance than say a middle aged man. But here in the US, a woman who's at least in her 30s who dates younger men(more than 5 years younger) is colloquially referred to as a Cougar and there seems to be a negative stigma attached to this. As if an older woman chasing younger men is somehow desperate for sex-which DOES seem fitting given what I said about the female sex drive AND the fact that she has to compete with younger women. I have no doubt a lot of middle-aged women feel bitterly towards men because they are on the brink of losing their reproductive abilities AND men of the same age are out chasing young ladies.


I don't claim to speak for all women, but I'm not looking for nothing but quick, intense sex as often as possible. I'm looking for a partner, and a guy who not only has no patience for foreplay but thinks (for example) that driving 90 mph on a crowded highway in pouring rain and maybe 200 feet of visibility is ok, is simply neither a turn-on nor a candidate for 'partner.'



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11 Dec 2008, 1:36 am

It's nice to know that not all women are attracted to the kind of over-confident, careless guy who likes taking stupid risks.



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10 Feb 2009, 4:02 pm

You women in many ways are too selective. These guys just want some good sex. I'm not saying go out and bone every man you see, but just don't be so freaken perfectionistic. You women control sex, you can get it whenever, however, and from whomever you want. Guys have the real problems when they get unnatractive because our sex drive doesn't randomly work, it's cyclical, and follows a 24 hour cycle.


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11 Feb 2009, 2:16 pm

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a guy who not only has no patience for foreplay but thinks (for example) that driving 90 mph on a crowded highway in pouring rain and maybe 200 feet of visibility is ok


That is foreplay. :wink:



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12 Feb 2009, 9:37 pm

Briarreos wrote:
You women in many ways are too selective. These guys just want some good sex. I'm not saying go out and bone every man you see, but just don't be so freaken perfectionistic. You women control sex, you can get it whenever, however, and from whomever you want. Guys have the real problems when they get unnatractive because our sex drive doesn't randomly work, it's cyclical, and follows a 24 hour cycle.


Ah, yes, having unsatisfying sex with people you don't find physically attractive. Sounds like fun.

Anyway, I do have encounters with creepy guys on a fairly regular basis. I imagine it's partly my fault, however, since I'm totally incompetent at flirting so only the truly oblivious and self-centered even bother trying with me. Also, the thing I consider creepiest is any intimation of violence or the indication that the guy wants to do things to you (sex or anything else) and doesn't give a crap about your opinion on the matter. It's made extra difficult by the fact that this type of guy has to be told to back off in no uncertain terms, but then you never know if he's going to go postal on you and actually hurt you.



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12 Feb 2009, 9:50 pm

actually having unsatisfying sex with unattractive people for many of us is the practice stuff so it really doesn't count towards the intent of the thread but it was a good try.


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28 Feb 2009, 11:20 pm

Men learn from women.
If a woman behaves a certain way, it is considered "sexy", but if a man behaves in the same way, it is considered "creepy".
Men who behave in a "creepy" manner are often taking tips from women whose behaviour, creepy in a male, is considered sexy in a female. Such men do not realize said gender barrier and will engage in behaviours that they think will be perceived as attractive or seductive.
Others are just irl trolling.
Others are just desperate.
But I think, in a lot of cases, the explanation I've given above is at the root of creepy male behaviour.



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01 Mar 2009, 11:11 am

Yupa wrote:
Men learn from women.
If a woman behaves a certain way, it is considered "sexy", but if a man behaves in the same way, it is considered "creepy".
Men who behave in a "creepy" manner are often taking tips from women whose behaviour, creepy in a male, is considered sexy in a female.


Uh....no, I don´t think so. Any hint of desperation, overbearing behavior or stalking is considered incredibly unattractive in a woman. In fact, I would say it is quite the opposite from what you wrote ; men are allowed to be direct, competitive and go for what they want, whereas these same traits are usually considered rather unattractive in women.


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01 Mar 2009, 11:13 am

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Anyway, I do have encounters with creepy guys on a fairly regular basis. I imagine it's partly my fault, however, since I'm totally incompetent at flirting so only the truly oblivious and self-centered even bother trying with me.


I think this is my problem too.


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