Autistic/Aspergian Women and Abortions

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It is particularly difficult for those of us that give a damn. I wouldn't even drink coffee, pregnant, nor even tolerate any distressing emotions or their causes. One realises that everything one does every day is to make a healthy, happy baby. There's simply no other option. This is also why I have a problem with adoption, as the baby presumably misses out on breast milk, or the mother needs to do it for say 6 months at least? At which point giving up the baby becomes a non-option also.

I personally don't mind what anyone thinks on the subject of abortion. I don't live in a place which forces "pro-life" on women, so I don't have any attachment to the argument, I guess. But I know anyway that guys will never know what all those feelings are like. I saw it around me as it happened. Men were very insensitive and disruptive most of the time, and this is while I was pregnant and seeing it through, to the best of my ability. So I suppose it is true they should reconsider having a strong opinion on the matter, but I wouldn't deny anyone their right to exercise their mental faculties, let alone an aspie. Obviously being opinionated and morally high-horsed is just our default setting. As is being infuriatingly impartial... /shrug.

This has been rather fascinating to watch, though.

I'm a woman and I believe humanity begins at pregnancy (implantation). I also recognize that women have a legal right to an abortion, and that the Powers That Be will not take that legal right away no matter how much lip service they pay to the idea. I'm personally more interested in making abortion obsolete than making it illegal.

To answer your first question, yes. To answer your second question, no -- because people have free will. Even if abortion was made illegal tomorrow, people would find a way to do it if they really wanted to. They did so when abortion was illegal.

You are judging that I am judging!

She was not clear (at least to me) in her initial post the Aspie was an ex-boyfriend. She talked about an NT partner (in present tense). Then she clarified in a later post that the Aspie was an ex-boyfriend, that the NT and she had broken up for a while, and that they had recently gotten back together.

Pot, meet kettle.

Exactly my sentiment. We need to evolve overall. I don't think making abortion illegal, nor continuing along the path of aborting unwanted pregnancies, is the future for us at all. They are both products of a world which devalues womens rights and their bodies, so first we need to address that.

I had an abortion, it was the right choice for me. I have absolutely no regrets and it was not a difficult thing for me to go through. The time I was pregnant, however, was horrible for me both physically and psychologically. It really pisses me off how some people act like pregnancy is such an easy thing as is adoption - like you just wait for a little bit and then give away your baby and everyone's happy. People die from pregnancy, people become permanently crippled from pregnancy - it's not an easy thing and certainly hell if someone is forced to go through it. The right choice is what the right choice is for the pregnant woman, for HER, no one else should have any right making that decision.

Your baby has the right to live.

Don't be dishonest. You know better. An early fetus is not a 'baby'.

After 3 months, your baby has a hearth. A human one. So don't be dishonest and let the poor baby live.

Edit: 3 weeks

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How many months til they can bubble?

Yup - a heartbeat. Not a brain, not consciousness, not emotions or sensations.

So yeah...since it's not conscious, if I ever get pregnant..well, let's just say I'm keeping my pretty rugged abdominals/obliques the way they are. Cry me a f*****g monsoon.

I would never have an abortion, for any reason.

Actually the heart starts beating at five weeks so that is two weeks after conception.

I also read a baby doesn't start to feel until they are around 20 weeks. So if a woman has an abortion before then, the baby will feel nothing.

You know its very way for men to come in here and go on about "anti abortion" because it really is NOT their issue.
Personally I would have one thinking its not a good idea to bring a child into an overly populated world and be an unstable mother for it. But it would probably kill me because that baby has a soul. And give up an emotional attachment to a child and give it away, yeah NO. If I had a child I would have to keep it. Its a huge issue for women who feel they shouldn't be mothers, and im one of them.

Guys come in here and voice their opinions on the matter and its almost a joke.

Actually it can be the man's problem. It's his baby too and sometimes they want the baby while the woman doesn't. Put it this way, lets say a married couple had sex and the wife got pregnant. Neither of them were ready to have kids but the husband wants to have the baby while the wife doesn't. So it is also his problem. Would it be fair for him to lose his baby?

I think some women think just because it's their body, the man doesn't have every right to say no to the abortion. The woman thinks just as long as the baby is in her body, she owns it and it's hers, not the guy's. But it is his too because he helped made the baby.

Some men have gotten upset when they find out their girlfriend was pregnant and she had an abortion. My husband would have been upset if I had one too.

Well its his problem then because its not his body. If the woman doesnt want it he has no say. He may leave her because of it, but thats her problem if she went ahead.

The man has no right to make the woman go through pregnancy, so what if his sperm helped make it? Plenty more where that came from. He does not have to go through anything and if he decides to bugger off the woman is left with all the sh*t. With a stable couple, it would be discussed in a civil way. All in all the woman should get the final say. If she doesn't then it's an absolute outrage.

It may be half his but it's not him who has to walk around with something growing inside him, deal with the pain, the trouble moving around normally, the health problems, the having to treat himself with kid gloves in case he harms his baby. He has no right to force her to go through that.

A person's rights over their own body are far more important than someone else's wish to have a child.

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