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11 Nov 2010, 11:53 am

Meh, strength like muscle strength - that's obvious, and in my book a non-issue.

Intellectual strength has been demonstrated by both sexes. We just have to be clear about what we consider intelligence. Our society automatically considers things like math, science and philosophy and often overlooks the mental gymnastics required to achieve certain types of traditional women's work. The women of years ago who had to knit stockings, sweaters and shawls for a family of 8 without instructions were geometry and arithmetic whizzes. If you don't believe me try knitting a repeat-patterned garment with nothing but the needles and yarn.

Weaving and spinning done by ancient Egyptian women has not, to this day, been surpassed even with machinery.

Cooking (imagine it on a wood stove in a world without canned or frozen goods, nevermind a thermometer) requires an in depth knowledge of food chemistry.

Also, women aren't considered weaker in all cultures. When a Hawaiian soldier is going to be deployed, if he practices the traditional religion, he prays for the strength of the back of Manono, the most renowned Hawaiian warrior, who also happened to be a woman. Hawaiian families, to this day are also still headed by a woman who ultimately makes final decisions on things. I can't speak for other matriarchal cultures.

OP, the men you mention are obviously projecting their own insecurities on others and should be told to take responsibility for their own actions. They are using sexism for convenience - they are clearly very weak people and could be easily decimated by a solid argument coming from a woman who wouldn't tolerate that BS.



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11 Nov 2010, 5:35 pm

Good lord, how absurd is it to be arguing over who's "better, stronger, smarter"???? And especially with a self-centered 20-year-old woman-hating jerk who probably still sneaks copies of Penthouse under his bedclothes.



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11 Nov 2010, 6:15 pm

pistonhead...you are only proving my point quite well. Although I was not talking about physical strength/weakness...I was talking about men lacking character, morale, and the emotional ability to handle situations and life circumstances instead of just blaming the woman in their life. So far you have proven my point with a great example.

As far as physical strength goes. Men have stronger short muscles, and women have stronger long muscles. What this means is men are generally good at short, strong bursts of energy, while women are better suited for endurance, agility, and flexibility. To compare the two is like comparing apples and oranges.

As far as intellect goes, as children girls score equally well as boys in math and science aptitude tests in elementary school, but in high school the gap widens...most social scientists think it has to do with cultural expectations more than actual ability.

becides the highest IQ in living record, for quite some time was held by a woman, Marylyn Savant

If women are such bile to you...then you need to disown your mother, abandon all your female children, dont date women, never hire a woman to work for you, and join some gay male elitist comune where you wont be infected by the woes of women ever again.


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11 Nov 2010, 8:08 pm

Don't be hatin' yo'


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12 Nov 2010, 1:26 am

I dont hate the player...just the game. :wink:


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12 Nov 2010, 3:52 pm

I think women all over the country should stop working, mothering, assisting, volunteering, buying, comuting for a week. This country would stop on a dime if every female secertary, nurse, teacher, banker, volunteer, cashier, manager, doctor, lawyer and every other job women hold including mothers, those taking care of elderly parrents, consumer...if we all sat around and read for a week and did our nails. It would be amazing how much our country would be affected...and then and only then will we get the recognition we deserve. Maybe after that we could talk about pay equality


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12 Nov 2010, 4:17 pm

That would probably hurt things more than help. Assuming that 10% or so of the nation is unemployed and suddenly 45% of the nation goes on strike probably at least 5% will be fired and replaced with an unemployed male and then not all the women can find jobs and more resort to prostitution, getting unemployment and taxes and s**t going up to support them. Companies might even take the opportunity to downsize as they have been doing (with layoffs).

Then the statistics go to show that women are unreliable and can't hold a job without demanding raises via striking. You'd probably hurt your own cause just as much if not more than if you had just done your job and tried to prove yourself via your work ethic.

Also, even if your proposal gained a large following there are still women who would oppose it as senseless disruption of the economy and would refuse to participate in it especially if they have children at home that they are already struggling to feed and without that support you are again just hurting your cause.


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12 Nov 2010, 7:11 pm

This discussion reminds me of one of the techniques women used to gain the right to vote in the US. The wives of politicians and social big wigs withheld their "feminine affections". The men caved almost immediately. :lol:



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14 Nov 2010, 8:39 am

happymusic wrote:
This discussion reminds me of one of the techniques women used to gain the right to vote in the US. The wives of politicians and social big wigs withheld their "feminine affections". The men caved almost immediately. :lol:


That's complete horses**t, but typical of adolescent thought processes.



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14 Nov 2010, 8:54 am

CaroleTucson wrote:
happymusic wrote:
This discussion reminds me of one of the techniques women used to gain the right to vote in the US. The wives of politicians and social big wigs withheld their "feminine affections". The men caved almost immediately. :lol:


That's complete horses**t, but typical of adolescent thought processes.


Nope, studied it in graduate school. Not horsepoo. It wasn't their only technique but it was employed.



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25 Nov 2010, 5:24 pm

Society generally (not all people) consider strength only or firstly by 'physical' stength and in general (not all) men are pysically stronger than women in using pysical strength. Women might have more strength to pain but that is not what is usually meant by physical strength. Of course we know there are other types of strength apart from physical.


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