so, who are these creepy men

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The article well describes for people that earn the name of creepy by constantly forcing the issue, doing things without consent, etc. It also explains well why the word creepy is so bad, it not only is irrefutable but it also leads to being 1 step away from being called a rapist. Which is voted by men as the worst thing one can be called. But i feel it goes very light on what the real issue is, the false accusations. Its the idea that simply saying someone is creepy is going to protect you. The only men who will back off and leave you alone after you call them creepy are men that dont have a reason to be called creepy. Like many guys here who simply dont know how to interact with others let alone go through the dating game. And the trully creepy ones wont care if you called them creepy. Theyll continue to do what they did to earn that, theyll not care, theyll not feel a need to stop. So useage of the word in itself is usually done badly.

creep (n):

1. A word used by women to describe an undesirable man.

2. A word used by women to label a man who won't "take the hint" that he is undesirable.

3. A word used by women to describe a man who has unrealistic expectations of his sexual desirability with women.

4. A word used by women to describe the status of a man who isn't nice enough to be "friendzoned" (see "creepzoned").

"He's old enough to be my father and he has the nerve to ask me for a date; the creep!"

syn. "Perv", "Slimeball", "Stalker"

creepzoned (v):

1. The act, usually performed by women, of assigning a non-social and caste-less status upon an undesirable man.

"That slimeball asked you for a date? He's creepzoned, for sure!"

Teh poor, poor menz.
(/sarcasm)

edit: I guess I should explain further than that.
Women, in general, aren't going to feel sorry for men whose greatest fear is going being called a name which might or might not be valid, because women's fear is being sexually assaulted or killed.
Violence is worse than name calling. Ok? Even if the name calling is undeserved. The persistent inability of so many men to understand that very simple point makes me wish I had even a slight inclination to be a lesbian.

Risk = chance of outcome x badness level of outcome.
Men have a slightly higher chance of being called a 'creep' than women have of being raped (although odds are that somewhere between 1 in 3 and 1 in 5 women will be raped in her lifetime), but the badness level of 'rape' so far exceeds that of 'name calling' that women's risk vastly outweighs men's in this instance.

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and you wonder why nobody takes you serious.

No, I don't. What I wonder is why, or how, so many men take themselves and their relatively little problems so f*****g seriously.

same reason you and many other women take themselves and their relatively little problems so f*****g seriously

None of the men, not a single one, who are complaining about that word have said that it never applies.

All of them have tried to make the point that it is used too often. Not that women should stop using it, but that they should not use it to describe every single guy they happen to not like.

Is that really such a difficult thing to understand?

"Hey, some guys commit rape. That's why it's okay for me to publically label a guy as dangerous because he *gasp, shudder* said hello, or asked me what time it was, or did any of a hundred other completely innocuous things."

That is how your argument is coming across.

Also...

Do men need to give a big detailed list of all the s**t that's happened to them before you're willing to take them seriously? Would you like mine? Probably not. Suffice it to say that most of the stuff women seem to be afraid of, when they defend the use of that term, has happened to me. And guess what, I still think it's an overused and hurtful (not to mention seriously damaging to the reputation) word.

I have no argument with that statement, as it stands; however, I do not believe that women use the term to describe "every single guy they happen to not like." I use the term 'creep,' and so does every other woman I've ever spoken to, specifically to describe a man who has made me feel unsafe: someone with whom I would not want to be alone in a room. Furthermore, I have never seen any evidence that women use it less discriminately than that, and further than that, a lot of the men who say, 'I had this term applied to me unfairly,' speak about women in such disrespectful terms that I tend to think that the label was not unfair at all.

That is not what I am saying, and I think I'm being pretty clear about it. If you're reading that, I think that it says more about you than it does about me.


You have not been trained by your parents since childhood, and you are not reminded every day on police, CSI, and medical shows, and in the newspaper, and by politicians, that men are dangerous to you, and that you are responsible for making sure that you do not get assaulted.

I am very sorry if you have been sexually assaulted. I sure hope that no one said that you were 'asking for it,' or, 'what did he think was going to happen?' or 'why was he even there?' or 'he should have known better.' or 'he was dressed like someone old enough to have sex.' or 'he instigated it.' or 'but they are such nice boys!' Because that would really suck even more, if people said things like that after you had been sexually assaulted.
for example:
http://feministing.com/2012/11/29/this- ... ve-spider/
I sure hope that nothing like that happened to you. I'm very sorry if it did.

Fair enough That is why I have the women do the approaching if they want me to want them and thats if I want the woman.

That kinda makes sense. Kinda like how you can't be a psychopath if you're capable of worrying that you are one, as real psychopaths would never do such a thing. I realise that guys here take issue with the word creep because they're self-conscious of or insecure about how their own behavior comes across. For what it's worth I'm sure the ladies don't think anybody here is a creep.

Im sure a few think of me as some annoying freak that shouldnt have been born but thats just me.

do NOT devolve this thread into a debate about what exactly a creep is supposed to be. i moved this thread into the Women's Discussion for a reason: this thread is allowed as a question for women, not as an accusation towards them. remember which forum you are in.

if you want to have a debate about creepiness, or if you are a man who wants to complain about the label, take it elsewhere please.

I don't think you're a creep.

I don't either.

You get hit on by men like this?

Sometimes.