aspie women, do you hate women in general?

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15 Feb 2007, 5:05 pm

Hate is a strong word. I really really dislike being around groups of women. They do things like light candles all over the place and talk about shoes. What's up with that? :lol:

I don't particularly care for most men, either. Most of them just look right through me, even though we could probably have really interesting conversations, if they ever considered the possibility.



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15 Feb 2007, 6:49 pm

Well, this is certainitly a interesting subject. Personally, both sides I never had hated more then the other. But if I do have a resond to hate genders generally, usually it's for diffrent resonds. Usually they go on and off. As of current, my relation with both sexes is neutral.

I consider myself a tomboy, but I'm more looser in personality then might be conbsiderd a tomboy. I think of myself as one becuse when I was really little, I truely thought I was a guy no matter what. I would also get crushes on other girls and such. But that lasted from as far as I could remember till I was 6. No, I'm not lesbian. But even though I don't think I'm a guy anymore, the 'damages' are still done. For example, I refuse to wear anything like dresses, skirts, and makeup. And while it's mostly just in the name of comfort, I often assosiate tight clothes as girly. So that's part of the resond why I wear baggy sweat shirts (T-shirts are OK) and sweat pants strictly. Kinda strange, no?



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15 Feb 2007, 7:18 pm

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I don't hate women in general, but it seems like I really can't get along with most of them.



Same here.


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17 Feb 2007, 12:04 am

SpaceCase wrote:
Starbuline wrote:
I don't hate women in general, but it seems like I really can't get along with most of them.



Same here.


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17 Feb 2007, 6:59 am

how is it even possible to be able to befriend a male?

All they ever want is sex from you. You think they're your friend, and they would rather come onto you.



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17 Feb 2007, 7:47 am

hale_bopp wrote:
how is it even possible to be able to befriend a male?

All they ever want is sex from you. You think they're your friend, and they would rather come onto you.


You should try being less hot-it works wonders! :-) Most men don't see me as a girl plus I have a boyfriend so there's no question of sleeping with them.

I've always felt nervous around women. I think it's the little things like the fact that I cut my own hair and don't wear make-up and rarely buy new clothes. When other women are talking about bikini waxes I just wander off because I have no interest at all in the topic. I also find that men (some men at least) understand my sense of humour better. Like someone else said, it's a bit odd and women seem to get offended more easily in my experience. Of course there are some men who get offended at the drop of a hat too and I avoid them as much as possible. There are always exceptions though and I have a few women aquaintances that I get on well with.



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17 Feb 2007, 9:09 am

I'm friends with plenty of males. If they are coming on to me, I wouldn't notice anyway and I'm sure they figure that out pretty quickly. Men do tend to be overprotective of me, although they like to talk to me about obscure things only we would care about. Maybe they like me because I don't do the double speak. When I do realize I'm being hit on (and that has to be pretty literal and in my face for me to get it), I'm just blunt. For instance, I will say something like, Eww. I only like sex with my husband. And, if they push that and want to find out if I would want them if he wasn't in the picture, they will find out and they'll find out why. "I wouldn't ever have sex with you because you have blonde hair and you're too short." Or, whatever the case might be. My taste is extremely narrow, always has been, and I've always just announced these things. But, you know, maybe that's better because they let go of it if they know I would never have any interest. And, then I'll go straight back to talking about some obscure thing as if it never happened.


It makes my husband crazy. He knows I'm oblivious to most of what happens around me. Males of a certain type get downright stalkerish with me and he's aware of that. He'll run them off if he's around, but he freaks out when I'm alone.


I think that's strange you've never made male friends. An old boyfriend is the one who found my husband for me. In fact, I always found boyfriends through other men introducing us and telling me they thought the guy was boyfriend material. They probably thought I needed to be told or I wouldn't get it. :D



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17 Feb 2007, 11:47 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
how is it even possible to be able to befriend a male?

All they ever want is sex from you. You think they're your friend, and they would rather come onto you.


Don't be single. If they know you're single they are going to take advantage of that.



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18 Feb 2007, 2:13 am

ahayes wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
how is it even possible to be able to befriend a male?

All they ever want is sex from you. You think they're your friend, and they would rather come onto you.


Don't be single. If they know you're single they are going to take advantage of that.


Or you could lie and say you're not single.



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18 Feb 2007, 2:13 am

ahayes wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
how is it even possible to be able to befriend a male?

All they ever want is sex from you. You think they're your friend, and they would rather come onto you.


Don't be single. If they know you're single they are going to take advantage of that.



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18 Feb 2007, 2:16 am

Hmm, won't let me edit it completely.



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18 Feb 2007, 4:54 pm

Starbuline wrote:
ahayes wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
how is it even possible to be able to befriend a male?

All they ever want is sex from you. You think they're your friend, and they would rather come onto you.


Don't be single. If they know you're single they are going to take advantage of that.


Or you could lie and say you're not single.


Or only befriend ones who are completely taken and/or not interested in women.


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19 Feb 2007, 3:51 am

For me, I think it goes back to empathizing vs. systemizing cognitive styles... I tend to get along better with those whose cognitive style matches my own.

Most of my friends are systemizing men, and what few female friends I have are systemizing women. Non-systemizers tend to strike me as superficial, airheaded, and unintelligent, regardless of their sex.



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27 Feb 2007, 10:17 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
In my opinion it's guys that are false, two faced slags that trample on other peoples feelings.

I seriously cannot see why people like them and get along with them.

In my fact, it's false two faced slags that are false two faced slags.

The reason you can't see why people like 'them' and get along with 'them' is because you mistakingly see 'them' as a group of like-minded individuals.

In reality, humans in general exhibit disgusting traits daily. Women can be two faced slags just as much as men; But its human error and bias that allow you to subconsciously pick out and notice more prominently the instances of dishonorable male behavior.

Anyway, I'll wrap this post up with:

- to all those who said "i don't hate ____ in general, but i do have trouble getting along with most of them", congratulations and thank you for being intelligent.

- to all who said "i hate ____", you are a shame to aspies everywhere. And whether you think you can meet an honorable member of your hated gender or not, either way, you're right. ponder that one for a while.


I myself am biologically male, but exhibit traits stereotypical of female here, male there, etc. I hate the stereotypical girl who thinks the world revolves around her, who says circumlocutions (look it the f**k up) to her boyfriend to get him to do things for her, who gets moody for a prolonged period of time over nothing, just as I hate the stereotypical guy who thinks everything in the world should be a competition, that violence is the solution to conflict, that whose dad can beat up whose dad means anything, etc.
But notice my use of the wording there with 'the stereotypical ____ who'. If I were to say "i hate guys" or "i hate girls," i would be going against all the intelligence and reason in my brain that causes me to base whether i hate, like, or am neutral about a person on that individual person themself.

Case by f*****g case, people.



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20 Mar 2007, 5:56 pm

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I wouldn't say I hate women but I just can't get along with them as well as with men. I tend to find women (maybe it's mainly NT ones) are false, two faced slags that are quite happy to trample on others' feelings and wishes to get what they want. I know a lot of women like this.

i wish id had the courage to say this myself
i totally agree
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21 Mar 2007, 7:04 pm

I have sorta had lifelong negative reinforcement when it comes to other females. I was bullied the most visciouly by the girls..even my younger sister...Female relatives have always been the most put-off by my idiosincracies...

Once in a while I will make a female friend..but alot of times it will be a struggle to mantain it...either they get annoyed by me or I am annoyed by them...and I have a hard time trusting other females.
I have always sorta been one of the guys..But I don't hate females..I just prefer to keep my distance.